On Sun, 09 May 2004 06:43:46 +0900
Masataka Ohta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Smith;
> 
> > > Filtering on protocol/port numbers is a broken concept.
> 
> Yes, it is.
> 
> However, it is merely as broken as PMTUD that we don't need
> security discussion to deny PMTUD.
> 
> > I've understood that what you have described is the end-goal
> > of end-to-end, opportunistic encryption and authentication
> > ie. IPsec.
> 
> Back to the original problem, PMTUD depends on the capabilities
> of intermediate systems on a path to generate certain ICMP,
> generation of which is as complex as fragmentation itself,
> that it is not very end to end.
> 

Radia Perlman, in her book "Interconnections", 2nd edition,
suggests a few alternative methods of performing PMTUD, including
one which wouldn't require feedback from the network, starting at
pg 185.

> That is, PMTUD is a broken concept.
> 

I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying the idea of PMTUD
is broken, or the way it currently works ?

Regards,
Mark.

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