Hi Michael -

I actually looked at this issue in drafting this report.  bcp8 seems to
place the irtf in the "inner" ietf circle (e.g., iesg, iab, etc...).
And, as Harald notes, their support needs are fairly minor.  So,
I lumped their funding needs in the "misc." category of the ietf
financials.  

We have enough on our plate for now, so the structure and
funding of the irtf just didn't seem worth calling out as an
issue.   At $1000/year, seems like one of those things we can 
not worry about for now.

Regards,

Carl

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> 
> --On s?ndag, november 14, 2004 15:47:00 +0100 Brian E Carpenter 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Michael Richardson wrote:
> > ...
> >>   Of the RG people that I know, they all attend IETF.
> >>   Of course, I might never meet the RG people that don't attend
> >> IETF. If so, who are they?
> >
> > There are such people - I know of at least one person who was
> > in DC on the Saturday before the IETF for an RG meeting, and
> > who drove home on Saturday night. But I don't think it's
> > relevant - the question is whether RG support is on or off
> > the IETF budget. In view of the budget numbers Harald gave us,
> > the answer surely has to be "off" at present. That doesn't mean IRTF
> > support should be out of scope for IASA in principle, though.
> 
> If the IRTF support is on the order of USD 1000 per year, it really doesn't 
> matter to the budget whether it's "on" or "off".
> As a matter of principle (because I regard the IRTF as part of the "large 
> tent IETF" that RFC 3716 described), I think it should be "on", and we can 
> choose whether to give any money to it in a specific year or not.
> 
> Telling the IRTF that they need to set up their own funding structures if 
> they need support for their activities seems "not right" to me.
> 
>                    Harald
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