I guess I am of the "less formal" type of person. We can send omcplaints/concerns ot IAOC. We ssume IAOC will handle/act on it If they do not, we can start the recall process on them
Maybe I am just too simple minded. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 15:17 > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sam Hartman > Subject: Re: bcp-02: Section 3.4 > > > Well, > > A letter of complaint requires no response unless there is something > that formalizes the requirement of response. > > And if there is no procedure indicating that the IAOC needs to pay > attention to a letter of complain, that decision, i.e the one > to ignore > letters of complain, cannot be appealed. > > So, as I see it, without a formalized process of complaint/appeal of > IAD actions we are left with no avenue to deal with problems > other then > by the yearly nomcom process and the IETF list. > > > On 11 dec 2004, at 22.18, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: > > > Avri writes: > >> Unless I am missing something in the document, there is no > way for a > >> member of the IETf community to formally ask the IAOC to review the > >> decisions of the IAD. > > > > Since when would you not be allowed to send an email/complaint to > > the IAOC ?? > > > > I guess you meant to say that there is not "formal way" to do so, > > yeah, that is what i explicitly said. > > > but we're all adults and we CAN communicate, can we not? > > what does being an adult have to do with it? > I don't understand. The issue is that there is no way to > make the IAOC > take notice of the communication. > > > > > I.e. I do not see why we would need to make a formal procedure for > > this. > > Because the lack of formalization leaves the IETF community without a > means to appeal decisions. And this decreases the level of > accountability. > > And of the things I thought that were driving the entire AdminRest > process was the need for transparency and accountability. And as I > understand accountability in the IETF, it involves handling appeals > from the IETF community. > > a. > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
