In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> --On mandag, januar 10, 2005 19:47:43 +0100 Tom Petch
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I believe any individual submission should have a publicly identified,
>> publicly accessible mailing list, perhaps listed in the I-D
>> announcement, so that we can raise issues, hopefully resolve them,
>> before last call.  Then a default yes could make sense.
>
> So do I. It's one of the pieces of advice I always give to I-D writers.
> It is, unfortunately, not often followed.

Well, that may well depend on how far along the I-D is, but in the ID
checklist section 3.8 found on the rfc-editor's website (see: 
http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html#anchor6 ), it explicitly says:

   Avoid text that will become outdated after RFC is published.

   Examples include non-permanent URLs, mentions of specific mailing
   lists as places to send comments on a document, or referring to
   specific WGs as a place to perform specific future actions (e.g.,
   reviewing followup documents).


So, even if an I-D starts out with information about where to discuss
the draft, it needs to be removed once it gets close to being final.
Also, even if the I-D has this information, it isn't in the
announcement.


Maybe it would be a good idea to have a manditory section in all I-Ds
that lists this information, and *only* this information.  Then that
info could be "easily" put into the announcement and the RFC-editor
could remove that section before publication.


-wayne




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