--On Thursday, 27 January, 2005 10:51 +0100 Harald Tveit
Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on re-reading this, I think John and I are saying the same
> thing. I missed that in my earlier read. Serves me for
> replying too early in the morning :-(

Even earlier in the morning here :-(
But, yes, I think we are largely in agreement, inevitable small
differences in perspective notwithstanding.

   john



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