On Feb 21, 2007, at 4:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

On 2007-02-18 13:46, Tony Finch wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
If this was effective, blacklists would have solved the spam problem.
They are 90% effective

You what? Which Internet would that be?

Blacklists at the level of sending domains (or reputation systems that function like blacklists) are a failure. Maybe you are fortunate and dotat.at is not blacklisted. You won't feel so fortunate when it does get blacklisted one day, if you happen to find out why your mails are being dropped.

The preferred solution would be to abolish email black-hole lists, and rely upon effective AUP enforcement of network providers that prohibit bulk unsolicited messaging. Unfortunately some countries, such as the United States for example, permit bulk unsolicited messages following a few guidelines that are rarely enforced. In addition, the US law also prevents victims of bulk unsolicited messages from seeking relief in court, as only providers and the US government have standing.

The level of bulk unsolicited messages exceed more than 90% of the volume in many cases, where a majority commonly see figures in excess of 80%. Without use of email black-hole lists, many systems become saturated with unwanted messages. This is particularly true where network bandwidth is the limiting factor. Both Sender-ID and DKIM require entire messages to be received before acceptance criteria can be applied. Methods to identify and filter messages based upon originating email-addresses will not offer any relief, where a high turnover of millions of domains every day makes this effort far less effective as well.

Nevertheless, bulk unsolicited messages are also effective at infecting or enticing victims. These messages must be stopped. No email black-hole list can be 100% effective, but can eliminate much more than two-thirds of this unwanted traffic. This reduction often rescues resources needed for message analysis aimed at improving basic security protections.

Black-hole lists also have false positives. At times, false positives encourage network providers into either establishing or enforcing AUPs that prohibit bulk unsolicited messages. Only network providers can adequately deal with this problem, as the messages must be prevented before they are sent. This remains an ugly and ongoing process, where outright banning of bulk unsolicited messaging is really the only practical solution. Such prohibitions can be effective.

At any point in time, about 2% of the sources are creating a problem. Of course, these 2% are those not yet black-hole listed as well. The amount of abuse from black-hole listed sources quickly becomes nil. Black-hole listing the address space of providers that ignore bulk unsolicited messages coming from their networks can also be effective at eventually changing their policies. No source should be listed for 5xx without first contracting the network provider as determined by the ASN. The network provider is the only suitable actor able to resolve this problem. Black-hole lists are just an ugly band-aid. However, time and time again, the network provider's role is ignored in the various email strategies.

Something that could greatly assist the network provider would be a scheme that identifies the entity actively transmitting the messages. The transmitter's IP address can become black-hole listed, should the entity running the transmitter not become aware of a problem. Transmitter identifiers would also benefit network providers in that their customers could be directly contacted instead. Unfortunately, the transmitter remains obscured in all the emerging standards.

-Doug












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