> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Darryl (Dassa) Lynch wrote:
> 
> > Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
> > >>> From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >> There is a major difference between a NAT box plugged into
> > >> the real Internet and a NAT box plugged into another NAT
> > >> box. It is a pretty ugly one for the residential user.
> >
> > I'm afraid it is already happening on a large scale in some parts.  Here in
> > Australia I've seen multiple ISP's who NAT all residential customers.  Some
> > of them amongst the largest players in the market.  Even some commercial
> > offerings are on NATs.
> >
> I've also encountered a local ISP who is using a NAT between their network
> and the 'world'. So there is at least one US based ISP who has adopted
> this approach.

        Well they are not a ISP as far as I am concerned.   If you
        want you VoIP phone to work (accept calls) you need a real
        address.  Arranging to have VoIP work through a NAT which
        you fully control is hard enough.  Making it work through
        a NAT that you don't control is almost impossible.

        I suppect loss of services that remote / double nat causes
        will be enough to kill this "solution".

        Mark
 
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