Michael,

when you think about your comment a bit more then you will realize that it is 
not up to us to decide how the hour glass (of deployed protocols) looks like.

Ciao
Hannes
 

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> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2008 14:36
> An: ietf@ietf.org
> Betreff: RE: I-D 
> Action:draft-rosenberg-internet-waist-hourglass-00.txt]
> 
> 
> 
> > - "the GOOD news is that the wasp waist-hourglass is no 
> longer HTTP" 
> > [RFC3205], or
> > 
> > - "the GREAT news is that the wasp waist-hourglass isn't 
> Skype (yet)".
> 
> The REALLY GREAT news is that when IP ceased to be the wasp waist, 
> TCP/UDP moved to fill that position which implies that having a
> wasp waist in the protocol stack is a stable state towards which
> the protocol set wants to converge.
> 
> Therefore, there is good reason to encourage this wasp-waist to
> be the right part of the protocol stack. Which means that we should
> conciously think about, and discuss, where the wasp waist should
> be. And we should try to reinforce positioning the wasp wasit at
> the optimal point of the stack.
> 
> Is TCP/UDP the right place which we should try to reinforce, or
> should we instead try to move it back down to IP as version 6
> becomes more widely deployed?
> 
> --Michael Dillon
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