I agree that this has been a significant issue, and that it is not appropriate 
to have a large number of meetings in a location where a significant number of 
potential attendees cannot get a visa to attend. For this reason I have been an 
advocate of having a disproportionate number of the North American meetings in 
Canada rather than the USA (to me the Vancouver and Montreal locations have 
been just as convenient as nearby US locations, and I assume that there must 
also be suitable facilities in Toronto and elsewhere). 

One thing that I wonder about is whether or not this will get better with the 
change of administrations in January. Thus I would be interested in hearing at 
the next two US IETFs (San Francisco in March 2009, and Anaheim in March 2010) 
whether people have had an easier time than they did at the current or past 
IETFs. 

Ross 

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Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 
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yes, it's really a problem that IETF meeting organizers should seriously 
consider.



在您的来信中曾经提到:
>From: "YAO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: 
>To: <ietf@ietf.org>
>Subject: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of
draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?
>Date:Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:24:41 +0800
>
>
> 
> according to IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria-04#section-2.3
> 
> which said "
> 
> 2.3.  Freedom of Participation
> 
>    Meetings should not be held in countries where some attendees could
>    be disallowed entry or where freedom of speech is not guaranteed for
>    all participants.
> "
> 
> My question is :"
> 
> Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria 
> as
IETF Meeting Venue ?"
> 
> It seems that many IETFer are disallowed to enter USA for ietf meeting when 
> ietf
is held in USA this time or other times
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