This is not anti-nat religion. There are costs that every application developer has to absorb to deal with topology warts, and the people that are focused on their little part of the problem space refuse to acknowledge those costs. They also refuse to recognize the fact that these costs are multiplied many times over due to the breadth of the application development space. In terms of the overall costs to the system, squeezing a cost out of the core forces a much larger cost spread all around the edges.
The fundamental problem here is that the voices of those bearing the costs in the core are being represented, while the voices of those doing application development are not being heard. Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Fred Baker > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WG; IAB; IETF Discussion; IESG IESG > Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Lack of need for 66nat : Long term impact to > application developers > > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Tony Hain wrote: > > > The discussion today in Behave shows there is very strong peer- > > pressure group-think with no serious analysis of the long term > > implications about what is being discussed. > > Yes, there is a very clear anti-NAT religion that drives a lot of > thought. It's not clear that any other opinion is tolerated. > _______________________________________________ > Behave mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/behave _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
