Dave Crocker wrote: > That was the culture. Law often > follows culture, since culture creates established practice.
I hope you're right. May I ask: Is there anyone on this list who is asserting a current copyright interest in any IETF RFC--on your own behalf or on behalf of your company--that would encumber the freedom of any IETF participants to copy, create derivative works, and distribute that RFC in accordance with IETF culture? On what basis do you assert that current copyright interest in those RFCs? Have you registered that copyright? Is that copyright interest sole or joint with any other entity, including other contributors or the IETF Trust itself? I'm not interested to hear about hypothetical situations. I would like to know if there are any actual claims of copyright ownership that people here are even considering to assert against IETF's complete freedom to act and establish functional Internet standards. /Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Dave CROCKER > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:34 PM > To: Brian E Carpenter > Cc: IETF discussion list > Subject: Re: IPR Questions Raised by Sam Hartman at the IETF 73 Plenary > > > > Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > On 2008-12-18 11:32, Dave CROCKER wrote: > >> My assumption was that the IETF owned the work. Pure and simple. > > > > False. You never implicitly transferred ownership. > > > Yes I did. As I say, that was the culture. > > Scott didn't have to come to Erik or me and ask permission, and he didn't > even > have to think about whether he was required to. That was the culture. Law > often > follows culture, since culture creates established practice. > > I do realize that that was a long time ago and that we certainly have many > participants holding different views. > > I was reviewing the history on the general belief that a crisis of the > current > sort can often be aided by taking a fresh look at first principles. > > > > But since I've now had a number of public and private exchanges with folk > who > have been diligent participants in this topic and since none has seemed to > understand -- nevermind embrace -- the line of discussion I've tried to > raise, > I'll go back to my observer status and let the folks who are putting the > real > effort into this continue on. > > d/ > > > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
