Dear Melinda: By reasonable and intelligent, I mean people who have skills and expertise that could be useful to the IETF: maybe now, or maybe years from now. A person who feels like they've been treated with undue harshness can hold onto that for quite some time... and that resentment could turn a person who might help the IETF now or later into someone who doesn't want anything to do with the IETF.
Again, please remember that I'm not trying to chastise anyone here. I'm just saying that we should strive to be patient. And indeed, I don't believe I was around when the IPR working group was chartered. I've been a long time watcher, but I hadn't had the resolve to step forward and say anything in the list until this most recent situation. I figured that I might as well try to help calm the situation in some way. I'm hoping to be of more use in the future, especially now that I've finally worked up the courage to post on the list at all. Sincerely, Alex Loret de Mola On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Melinda Shore <msh...@cisco.com> wrote: > On 2/10/09 4:48 PM, "Alex Loret de Mola" <edgarver...@gmail.com> wrote: >> What I don't want to see, however, is intelligent and reasonable >> people turned away by the abruptness of the backlash here. > > I have no idea what you mean by "reasonable and > intelligent." It seems to me that if they want > to participate in the process, there's always a > big need for people to review documents and provide > input. If their only interest is in whether or > not the IETF is publishing encumbered material, > that's a lot less helpful. Not publishing > hostile, false material on their website and > encouraging people to comment on a document they > haven't read would be a start, I think. > >> I've been trying to help this situation, for example, and I've >> received a handful of rude comments and dismissals thrown my way just >> in doing that. I don't think anyone deliberately intended to be rude >> - they were understandably upset with the situation. What I'm saying >> is that the FSF should consider the alternative methods of bringing up >> their concerns that we sent to them, and we should consider a larger >> measure of patience and tolerance when these things happen. > > I'm guessing you weren't around when the IPR working > group was being chartered and later rechartered. > > Anyway, I'd love to see more active participation in > protocol development by people who are actually implementing > stuff. > > Melinda > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
