Dean,

The web interface is broken. I don't have the initial password and it 
won't send me a new one.

Please cease and desist this nonsense and unsubscribe me promptly, I
never asked to be on your list, nor did anyone else that you added.

You're a spammer, plain and simple.

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: o...@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj


On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Dean Anderson wrote:

> The password was sent in the subscription mail.  The mailing list
> manager is GNU mailman, which is the same software many of the IETF
> lists uses, including i...@ietf.org. List management is the same, and
> the welcome message includes the password. In addition, mailman provides
> a web interface, which can be found at:
> 
> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/options/ietf-honest>,
>         <mailto:ietf-honest-requ...@lists.iadl.org?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <http://lists.iadl.org/pipermail/ietf-honest>
> List-Post: <mailto:ietf-hon...@lists.iadl.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:ietf-honest-requ...@lists.iadl.org?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.iadl.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-honest>,
>         <mailto:ietf-honest-requ...@lists.iadl.org?subject=subscribe>
> 
> RFC2369 headers are included in each list message.
> 
> Logs show that Ole Jacobsen was added on February 28, 2009, after a post 
> to the IETF list.
> 
>               --Dean
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> 
> > I think he added the ietf list as a whole. When I tried to
> > unsubscribe it said I needed a password which it never sent,
> > so I assume I am not "on" his list the strict sense.
> > 
> > Ole
> > 
> > Ole J. Jacobsen
> > Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
> > Cisco Systems
> > Tel: +1 408-527-8972   Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> > E-mail: o...@cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Fred Baker wrote:
> > 
> > > well, question. Did he actually do that, or did he make a mailing list 
> > > that
> > > has one member - the IETF list - to which he can add other members as he
> > > chooses?
> > > 
> > > You may recall that at some point in the past we had the opposite. 
> > > Someone set
> > > up a mailing list that was subscribed to ietf@ietf.org and filtered some 
> > > of
> > > our more interesting personalities. Folks that subscribed to it go a feed
> > > without the comments of (or replies to) those individuals. Many moved 
> > > their
> > > subscriptions.
> > > 
> > > Are you asking the Trust, or the IETF leadership, to send a cease and 
> > > desist
> > > letter?
> > > 
> > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> > > 
> > > >I was auto-subscribed to Dean's "ietf-honest" mailing
> > > >list, and I'm unhappy about it.  I don't know what his
> > > >current status is with regard to the ietf@ietf.org
> > > >mailing list but I think he's pretty clearly abusing
> > > >this mailing list by snagging names from it and
> > > >putting us on his mailing list without asking.  I'm also
> > > >not thrilled that the "welcome" message he sends out
> > > >fails to clearly identify who's sending it and that
> > > >he does not represent the IETF.  This is a small problem
> > > >but a problem nonetheless.
> > > >
> > > >Melinda
> > > >_______________________________________________
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> > > >Ietf@ietf.org
> > > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
> > > 
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