On 25 mei 2009, at 20:15, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
Well, my suggestion would be to spend a night in a hotel and tackle
the wonderful world of train travel the next day when you are rested.
How the above is more painful than connecting flights (subject to more
irregularities and weather delays etc) is beyond me, sorry. Yes,
changing to a train is slightly different from going from Terminal A
gate 5 to Terminal D gate 27, but so what?
I very much disagree. Train travel and air travel are both ok and both
have pros and cons. (I traveled to the Vienna and Paris meetings by
train.) However, mixing the two means having to deal with the
downsides of both, and with the fact that the failure modes are
different. Both when flying and traveling by train you'll get where
you need to be when there are delays. But if you miss your flight
because the train was late you're in trouble.
Having to spend a night in a hotel in the middle of a journey is
certainly a big deal, and, in my opinion, something the IETF can't
reasonably impose on its meeting attendees if it can be avoided.
I once traveled from Holland to Dublin by trains and boats and staying
overnight in London rather than fly because I wanted to, but I can't
imagine wanting to after an IETF week.
I think Henk answered this, but let me repeat: There are MAYBE 3
convention centers in The Netherlands that could hold an IETF size
meeting.
Rotterdam, largest room: 1850 (45 min by train from Schiphol + 5 min
walk)
http://www.dedoelen.nl/congresgebouw/pagina/57/algemeen/
Utrecht, largest room: 1533 (25 min by train from Schiphol + 5 min walk)
http://www.meetingmoods.nl/zalenoverzicht.aspx
The Hague, largest room: 2161 (30 min by train from Schiphol + tram or
taxi)
http://www.worldforumcc.com/wfcc/uk/factsfigures_uk/capaciteitenov_uk.html
Amsterdam, largest room: 1746 (15 min by train from Schiphol + 10 min
walk)
http://www.rai.nl/Voor_organisatoren/locatie/Zalen_en_Hallen.aspx
So unless the secondary rooms are insufficient, that's 4 right here.
None of them are near airports,
Google says that Anaheim is 51 km from LAX (and no reasonable public
transport, it seems). Rotterdam - Schiphol is 64, The Hague 45,
Utrecht 47, Amsterdam 13, Maastricht 217.
and each have pros and cons
in terms of cost, availability, ease of deploying a network and so
on. We picked the "best" one, based on a number of criteria.
Please send us all the information used in the decision making process.
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