I disagree that the last call is premature.  I realize that not everyone
is happy with all aspects of the current document but a clear majority
of people on the TLS list have voiced their support for it.  I do not
see any consensus that the existing approach is flawed, nor do I see
evidence of an emerging consensus on an alternative approach. 

This document fixes a serious security hole in TLS and so it is
important to finish it in a timely manner. While a minority of the WG
may feel that it this draft isn't exactly the way it would like, it does
address the relevant security issue. I don't feel that waiting several
more weeks to see if consensus forms around some other approach is
likely to be useful.

Joe
(Speaking as TLS Working Group Co-Chair)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Yoav Nir
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:06 AM
> To: ietf@ietf.org
> Cc: t...@ietf.org Group
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation 
> (Transport LayerSecurity (TLS) Renegotiation Indication 
> Extension) to Proposed Standard
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:37 PM, The IESG wrote:
> 
> > The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG
> > (tls) to consider the following document:
> > 
> > - 'Transport Layer Security (TLS) Renegotiation Indication 
> Extension '
> >   <draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation-01.txt> as a Proposed Standard
> > 
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, 
> and solicits 
> > final comments on this action.  Please send substantive comments to 
> > the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2009-12-14. 
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> 
> I oppose publishing the current draft. 
> 
> There are two unresolved issues still being discussed on the 
> TLS mailing list: 
>  1. non-extension signaling for older versions (SSLv3 and 
> maybe TLS 1.0)  2. explicit vs implicit addition of old 
> verify_data to the PRF (also known as fail-unsafe vs fail-safe)
> 
> I think the WG is converging, and that a couple of more weeks 
> of discussion may lead to consensus. 
> 
> I agree with David-Sarah Hopwood that a last call (WG or 
> IETF) is still premature.
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