Mike, On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Michael StJohns wrote:
> Marshall - > > I would suggest that given you've chosen the location based on the assumption > that Bob's 1/1/1 model is most correct and that its possible that a review of > the data relative to more persistent attendees or more active attendees may > suggest a different model, that you toll closing the "last call" until the > data is provided and reviewed by the community. E.g. Making a choice based > on incorrect or incomplete data is worse than delaying the choice a few > months especially since we're talking about dates 4-7 years out. > > [My assumption that you've based the choice of locations on the 1/1/1 model > may be incorrect, but seems supported by the presentations and comments] While I can't speak for Marshall, I think he was pointing out that the IAD sent out proposed dates for 2014-2017 to the community and no comments were received. This was done twice and afterwards the IAOC adopted the dates. Also, to your other query, these dates did not specify a meeting location. That is the point of this discussion. See: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.html Bob > > Mike > > > At 02:48 PM 8/10/2010, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> >>> in fairness, anyplace we don't yet have a contract is open to discussion. >>> With care and in some cases communication with other organizations, we >>> could change the announced dates. They were mostly picked out of the air >>> ("could we do X? Well, nobody on the clash list has chosen it yet...") in >>> the first place :-) >>> >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW, I do think that choice of July as the meeting time is not the best >>>> in terms of avoiding collisions with people's vacations. Say, early June >>>> or September would probably have less conflicts with family vacations, >>>> daycare shutdown periods, and the like. It would probably make it possible >>>> for more people to join the meeting. Of course, any change in the meeting >>>> dates would be slow. The current meeting calendar goes to November 2017... >> >> We just put the 2014-2017 calendar out for comment in May. >> >> Just as for any last call, it would be better if these issues were brought >> up before it closes... >> >> Regards >> Marshall >> >> >>>> >>>> Jari >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ietf mailing list >>>> Ietf@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >>> >>> http://www.ipinc.net/IPv4.GIF >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ietf mailing list >>> Ietf@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> Ietf@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf