Jordi, I have no idea how you managed to have such a bad experience. I travelled on German, Dutch and Belgian railways to/from Maastricht and all the info I got in advance was 100% accurate, right down to what platform the trains departed from.
I did hear that there was some confusion about whether or not express trains ran on the weekends from Brussels, but beyond that I am not aware of the total chaos you describe. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: o...@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Hi Henk, > > In a previous discussion about this it was clear that was not the Dutch > railway, but the Belgium one ... However, it was recommended to use the fast > train from/to Brussels, as it was faster than to Amsterdam ... Clearly was > not the case. > > The secretariat does an on site visit. It is simple to add one more point > and question about the trains if this is going to be used by most of the > participants (as it was in this case) and actually there is not a good > international local airport. > > WE can't recommend train if we don't "sample" it. > > And you know, in this case was quite obvious. If you ask in the train > station, as I did (unfortunately too late), they will tell you: > > "Oh NO, don't believe at all at the information on the web site, it has not > been updated for ages !". > > I think we could have avoided and we SHOULD avoid this mess to the > participants. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > > From: Henk Uijterwaal <h...@ripe.net> > > Organization: RIPE NCC > > Reply-To: <h...@ripe.net> > > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:38:23 +0200 > > To: <ietf@ietf.org> > > Subject: Re: FW: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to > > Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09 > > > > Jordi, > > > >> Maastricht proved that the information provided by the train web sites was > >> totally FALSE. > >> This is something that the secretariat/IAOC SHOULD verify before accepting > >> a > >> venue. > > > > The Dutch railway site (www.ns.nl) is quite accurate. It lists the trains, > > arrival time, departure time and location where you have to change trains. > > In the 6 years or so that I've been a regular train user, I still have to > > come across a case where the website listed a train that the NS did not > > intend to run. > > > > Of course, the system is as good as its input data. If there is a > > technical problem or accident along a path, the website will notify > > you about that as soon as the data is entered. In practice, this means > > some chaos and confusion the first 10-30 minutes after the incident, > > then decent warning messages appear. > > > > That said, please explain to me how the IAOC can verify that a train > > sometime in the future, will not run according to schedule. > > > > Henk > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net > > RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.xs4all.nl/~henku > > P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 > > 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 > > The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > I confirm today what I denied yesterday. Anonymous Politician. > > _______________________________________________ > > Ietf mailing list > > Ietf@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > > ********************************************** > The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the > individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware > that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this > information, including attached files, is prohibited. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
