>>>>> "Michael" == Michael StJohns <mstjo...@comcast.net> writes: Michael> What I'm looking for in a meeting location is a venue with Michael> both formal and informal meeting spaces where I stand a Michael> good chance of having a good technical discussion with Michael> random people at pretty much any time of the day or night - Michael> that's my view of what has contributed to the IETF's Michael> success over the years. (Although the marathon session for Michael> the first draft of the Host Requirements document was Michael> probably stretching it) That generally means a central Michael> large hotel with attached conference space with access to Michael> non-hotel food and drink in close proximity.
+1 The hotel bars in: - Minneapolis - Chicago (sorta) - DC (all three meetings) - Atlanta - Vancouver - Memphis - San Francisco (2004) were very good for this. The lack of clear canonical bars in: - Vienna - Montreal (both times) - Phildelphia (I think) were problems. I reserve judgement on Prague (smoke), and on Pittsburgh and Dallas, because I can't recall. The rest I either wasn't there, or I simply can't recall. Michael> With respect to tourism, at different times in my career, Michael> I've had different interests in the IETF. Currently, I'm Michael> down to only a few WGs that I follow and as of the last Michael> meeting, none that I'm currently contributing to. Michael> Considering that I'm now consulting as my main activity and Michael> paying for this on my own dime, I expect that my ratio of Michael> tourism to attendance will be somewhat skewed towards Michael> tourism, but wouldn't expect the IETF to cater to that. My Michael> prime interest is still technical interaction and Michael> discussion. +1 on all points here. Michael> I don't know how to categorize Maastricht vs Minneapolis Michael> except to say that air connectivity is better to Michael> Minneapolis and the meeting venue has more of what I'm Michael> looking for in an IETF setup - and I can't see any way to Michael> indicate that on your survey. I also have no problem with Minneapolis, and I really do want to take the train there... -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] m...@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf