On 11/11/10 7:01 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/11/2010 6:44 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote:
>> Is it a change in practice?  My impression is that all IETF events
>> require a badge for admission, although I suppose the practice may
>> have been more lax than the policy.
> 
> 
> It is a change in practice.  It is not a change in formal requirement.
> 
> This has (always?) been an unenforced requirement.(*)

another factual observation.

badges were required for afterhours access in maastricht. and in several
other venues vienna paris etc. different ietf venues have had various
security needs which the meeting planners, the host, the facility, or
some union of those have found necessary. We have had security guards
watching terminal rooms for a rather long time and experienced varying
levels of property loss in varying locations.

the 25 imacs in the ietf 55 terminal room had a security guard watching
them (and checking badges) the entire week.

> (I'm offering a factual point, but not commenting on the issues being
> raised, other than to find myself thinking that these are interesting
> issues that warrant clarity and maybe clarification.)
> d/
> 
> (*) In some arenas, long-term failure to enforce a rule negates the rule.
> 

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