Hi Ray - 

When did the community decide that this was a prohibited thing? Or that we were 
concerned enough with it to post security to make sure the badge matched the 
person? 

I can think of several IETFs where the badge name did not match the person 
including the Stanford IETF where there were a dozen or so "Milo Medin"s. 

While I appreciate the hotel's and/or host's efforts on our behalf to secure 
our belongings, I believe its for us to decide our attendance policy - not 
them. And lest you wax poetic about paid attendees, I will note that the badges 
were paid for. 

Here's what I'm hearing - 

The host/hotel/some other organization imposed conditions without consulting 
the IAOC. We didn't have much choice. If that's the case - assign the blame to 
the host/hotel and move on. We as a community generally understand re-routing 
in the face of network/operations issues. Especially, please avoid the 
apologist role for the outside forces. 


If the IAOC was consulted and approved this without passing it by the 
community, stand up straight and take your lickings and stop trying to pretend 
it's what we've always done. It's embarrassing. 

If there's a third case I missed please feel free to enlighten me. 

Mike 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Pelletier" <rpellet...@isoc.org> 

Yesterday, 3 people were stopped by security and upon examination it emerged 
that they were not paying attendees but rather using the credentials of other 
people. 


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