On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Keith Moore <mo...@network-heretics.com>wrote:

> So the existence of 6to4 is in itself a significant barrier for IPv6
> deployment for server operators and content providers.
>
> non sequitur.   Existing server operators and content providers can easily
> provide 6to4 addresses for their servers and content, which will be used in
> preference to native v6 addresses.
>

No. According to Geoff's data, one of the main reasons 6to4 fails is a
firewall that blocks IPv4 protocol 41 traffic. Even if content providers
published 6to4 addresses, those connections would still fail.


> Application developers should develop using manually configured tunnels,
> not 6to4. At least they don't have a 20% failure rate.
>
> How do you know?  How do you even measure the failure rate of manually
> configured tunnels in the aggregate?
>

In a similar way as Geoff measured 6to4 - looking at SYNs. I suspect that
the answer will be that much fewer users have configured tunnels than 6to4,
and that the failure rate is much lower.


>  I don't think you can monitor that kind of traffic the way you can 6to4,
> because the traffic patterns are much more constrained.   It's been awhile
> since I used manually configured tunnels (from a well-known tunnel broker).
>  But the one time I did try them, 6to4 worked better overall - lower latency
> and lower failure rate.
>

Please try again. You will be pleasantly surprised.
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