> -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave > CROCKER > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:27 PM > To: Melinda Shore > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Requirement to go to meetings (was: Re: Anotherj RFP without IETF > community input) > > So the question is how to move the center of gravity back to mailing > lists?
Tough call. I completely understand the need and desire to be productive without requiring meetings, for all the financial, participation, and other reasons given. But I also am very familiar with the fact that getting work done on lists can be a real challenge: People get sidetracked and can take days, weeks, or even months to answer something that's holding up a working group. I suspect decisions get made in person because people show up, perhaps out of fear that they will have missed an opportunity to be heard or influence a key decision. There's a feeling that meetings produce action items, where in the list environment action items get assigned when consensus gets around to warranting it. If you're sitting on a mailing list and someone asks you to provide a document review by some date and you say nothing, there's no indication of whether or not you even got the request. If you're sitting in a meeting room and someone asks you to provide a document review by some date, that person is likely to get an answer from you right away. In short: Meetings don't stall, but lists do. And I think, therefore, that many people find the meetings important, perhaps enough so that they save all their WG energy for the meetings. I don't think it's best for maximum participation, especially given the costs of the meetings as per discussion in the other thread, but I understand why it is that way. -MSK _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
