Henning,
This is essentially what I meant in agree with Mary about including a
personal CV.
However, even in the ACM/IEEE cases, there is a pronounced tendency to
go with
the better write-up than with necessarily the best candidate. That's because
practically
nobody actually knows the candidates.
Also, the positions where this is done are not usually the sort of
position that is
likely to impact on the day-to-day job of the ACM/IEEE membership, even over
the long
term - to the extent the effectiveness of an IESG candidate might.
Still, on the whole, I agree that this sort of write up would be more
helpful than not.
--
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Henning Schulzrinne [mailto:h...@cs.columbia.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:45 PM
To: Eric Gray
Cc: Bob Hinden; dcroc...@bbiw.net; ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
Importance: High
For what it's worth, candidates in professional organizations (IEEE, ACM, say)
routinely publish basic information about themselves, typically of two kinds:
* what have they done before (both within the organization as well as other
roles)
* vision for their position and the organization itself
Both are typically space-limited (around 200 words, I think) to force focus and
to avoid making this a "who can write a nicer autobiography" contest.
This is not sufficient and doesn't replace personal knowledge or one-on-one
interviews, but allows a broader range of people to comment. IEEE and ACM have
member votes, so the need is a bit different, but I don't think this is that
unusual nor particularly burdensome.
Henning
On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Eric Gray wrote:
> Okay, thanks Bob. This makes sense...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:36 PM
> To: Eric Gray
> Cc: Bob Hinden; dcroc...@bbiw.net; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Nomcom off in the wilderness: Transport AD
> Importance: High
>
> Eric,
>
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Eric Gray wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> This confuses me. Are you saying that you would be more able to
>> give feedback on someone you don't know if you knew what they might have to
>> say about themselves?
>>
>> I would think that - if you don't know somebody - you can't give
>> feedback on them (and that is precisely as it should be).
>
> If I don't recognize them by name (and we don't publish their pictures), I
> might remember something they did in a working group/plenary/etc. by reading
> their summary.
>
> Also, if they make statements about the future of the IETF that I agree with
> or don't agree with, I can provide feedback on that.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
