On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Spencer Dawkins
<spen...@wonderhamster.org>wrote:

> Hi, SM,
>
> This may be a misprint ...
>
> On 4/11/2013 3:21 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
>
>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 3:43 PM, SM <s...@resistor.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   12.5 % of IAOC voting members are female.
>>>    0.1%  of IAB members are female
>>>    0 %   of IESG members are female.
>>>
>>> Based on the above measurements the IAOC is more "diverse".  The IAOC
>>> already collects gender-related information.  The other information
>>> requested in the meeting registration form is strictly for meeting
>>> attendance purposes.  The sensitive questions referred to above have
>>> nothing to do with meeting attendance.
>>>
>>
>> With respect, this is sampling noise.  12.5% of 8 is 1.   Don't get me
>> wrong—it's great that we have some diversity on the IAOC, but I don't think
>> anybody should be patting themselves on the back just yet!
>>
>> What diversity is the IAOC measuring?
>>
>
> By my count, the current IAB membership is 15 (12 Nomcom-selected, plus
> the IETF chair, plus the ExecDir, plus the IRTF Chair - these last two are
> ex-officio and non-voting).
>
> If the IAB means "members", the number for females, as far as I know(*),
> is 2/15, or 13 percent. If it means voting members, the number for females
> is 1/13, or just under 8 percent.
>
> Other diversities also matter, and I'm just doing math here (**).
>

Agreed, however, it would seem to me that at least one question that one
might as is whether these percentages are representative of the IETF
population at large.

--dmm


>
> Spencer
>
> (*) In my spare time, I'm co-president of PFLAG Dallas, which is a local
> chapter of PFLAG, an abbreviated abbreviation of "Parents, Families and
> Friends of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual _and Transgender_ people", so I know I
> can't claim definitive knowledge on who's what ... only on what people
> appear to be.
>
> (**) I think diversity matters, and didn't want us to look less
> gender-diverse than we are ...
>

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