IMHO, The presenters are MUST, but the time channel for presenting is the
problem or boring factor. I mentioned before that we need short
presentations 5 minutes, and more discussions.

AB


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Keith Moore <mo...@network-heretics.com>wrote:

>
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Bob Braden wrote:
>
> > On 7/30/2013 9:35 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> >>
> >> Easy fix: 'slide' (well, nobody uses real slides anymore :-) rationing.
> >>
> >> E.g. if a presenter has a 10 minute slot, maximum of 3 'slides'
> >> (approximately; maybe less). That will force the slides to be
> 'discussion
> >> frameworks', rather than 'detailed overview of the design'.
> >>
> >>      Noel
> >
> > Noel,
> >
> > I tried the 3 slide limit in the End2end Research Group some years ago,
> and it did not work very well.
> > Presenters just can't discipline themselves that much, no matter how
> hard you beat on them.
>
> Maybe the first step is to stop having "presenters".
>
> Keith
>
>

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