Philip, I'm not disagreeing. I responded to Keith's mail relating what we
do to what was done harvesting WiFi. Like the store, we're in a room. we're
in a world of implied and actual consent (you do actually have to give some
consents when you register for IETF)

-G


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hal...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:31 PM, George Michaelson <g...@algebras.org>wrote:
>
>> When next you walk into a target or big W, ask to see the conditions of
>> entry. Along with implied consent to have your bags checked at any time,
>> you have probably given consent to be video'ed and tracked at their behest.
>> The poster is on the wall somewhere usually. Your statutory rights cannot
>> be abrogated but equally, the grey areas have been 'informed'.
>>
>
> The efficacy of such notices has not been tested in court and when they
> are tested it is likely to cost the target about $2 million+ in legal fees.
>
> Since the IETF meets around the world the last thing we need is to spend
> time checking the legality of the badge at the mic system. And even though
> the IETF is not likely to be a target, I would hate to have some of the
> less popular with governments organizations I am involved in copy what the
> IETF does and then find themselves being targeted with a selective
> prosecution.
>
> Barcodes have the potential to work really well and require almost no
> change from current practice. The only downside to a barcode is that they
> are slightly easier to forge. Though in the IETF context, forgery would
> likely consist of people copying other people's badges for fun rather than
> to avoid paying.
>
>
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