On Sep 5, 2013 5:17 PM, "Dean Willis" <dean.wil...@softarmor.com> wrote: > > > This is bigger than the "perpass" list. > > I suggested that the surveillance/broken crypto challenge represents "damage to the Internet". I'm not the only one thinking that way. > > I'd like to share the challenge raised by Bruce Schneier in: > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying > > > To quote: > > ----------- > We need to know how exactly how the NSA and other agencies are subverting routers, switches, the internet backbone, encryption technologies and cloud systems. I already have five stories from people like you, and I've just started collecting. I want 50. There's safety in numbers, and this form of civil disobedience is the moral thing to do. > > Two, we can design. We need to figure out how to re-engineer the internet to prevent this kind of wholesale spying. We need new techniques to prevent communications intermediaries from leaking private information. > > We can make surveillance expensive again. In particular, we need open protocols, open implementations, open systems – these will be harder for the NSA to subvert. > > The Internet Engineering Task Force, the group that defines the standards that make the internet run, has a meeting planned for early November in Vancouver. This group needs dedicate its next meeting to this task. This is an emergency, and demands an emergency response. > ------------ > > The gauntlet is in our face. What are we going to do about it? > >
Is there a standards gap or an implementation gap? All Tor, all TLS, all PGP, all DANE all the time? And dont forget about this http://www.zdnet.com/nokia-hijacks-mobile-browser-traffic-decrypts-https-data-7000009655/ I like this post below, just accept the risk that there is no expectation of privacy. The snoops have optical taps and all the private keys. And the T&Cs for most public email services, social networks, maps, hospitals, airport wifi... make it clear your data is not private. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/our_newfound_fe.html CB > -- > Dean Willis
