Good point Bernie. Ruchika, I suggest you taking a look at the influenceR R
package https://github.com/rcc-uchicago/influenceR. The package uses both
igraph and SANP, although not at the lower level. Either way, I think it
might help you a bit.

Best,

George G. Vega Yon
+1 (626) 381 8171
http://cana.usc.edu/vegayon

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Bernie Hogan <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No!
>
> [Hi everyone, been ages,]
>
> neo4j is a stellar product that we use as a backbone to our program
> NetworkCanvas, but it is woefully inefficient at the scale you're
> describing. It's basically a database of networks as nodes and edges where
> edges are a series of bi-directional hashes relating nodes for easy
> traversal. The cypher language for querying it is neat. I wouldn't say
> elegant but neat. Neo4j works very nicely with high dimensional data but it
> is not the most efficient graph database. I might be wrong, but I was given
> some serious grief lately for using neo4j by some CS people here at Oxford.
> I told them that for me usability was more important than performance as my
> current networks are extremely high dimension (multiplex, longitudinal,
> many atributes) but not very large. They agreed but said I should look a
> little further afield if I'm working towards more big big data networks.
>
> In the case mentioned here, you might want to have a look at Zen but it
> doesn't seem very active: http://zen.networkdynamics.org
>
> Also, Jure Leskovec's SNAP is also geared towards very large networks and
> can definitely handle the sort you're referring to
> https://snap.stanford.edu/data/ It's been used to analyze hundreds of
> millions of accounts and billions of edges on MSN among other things. I
> haven't used either of these packages in ages though so YMMV.
>
> Take care,
> Bernie
>
> Bernie Hogan, PhD
> Research Fellow, Oxford Internet Institute
> Faculty Fellow, Alan Turing Institute
> University of Oxford
> http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/hogan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:29 PM Ruchika Salwan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Thanks a lot Tamas !! will check it out for sure. You have been a great a
>> help. :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Ruchika
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Tamas Nepusz <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've heard that Neo4J is the de facto standard tool for dealing with
>> graph databases. Never used it though.
>>
>> T.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Ruchika Salwan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> That's true. I have developed the basic version with Igraph. Can you tell
>> me about any other library that I can use to implement the algorithm for
>> massive graphs
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ruchika
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2016 18:12, "Tamas Nepusz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I am following this research paper whose findings I have to replicate.
>> And one of their graphs has 5million nodes and 69 million edges. That's the
>> smallest dataset they are using.
>>
>> igraph has no problems with a graph of that size on a decent machine.
>> (Mine has 8 GB of RAM and an Erdos-Renyi random graph of that size fits
>> easily). Larger graphs can become problematic -- but anyway, working with
>> in-memory graphs and on-disk graphs is radically different, and igraph was
>> designed for the former use-case, so it won't be of any help to you if your
>> graph does not fit into RAM. The problem is that igraph makes assumptions
>> about the cost of certain operations; for instance, it assumes that looking
>> up the neighbors of a vertex can be done in constant time. These
>> assumptions do not hold if the graph is on the disk because the operations
>> get much more costly. So, in that case, you are better off either using
>> another library that stores the graph in a database, or implement your
>> algorithm from scratch.
>>
>> T.
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