On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:29 AM, narendra sisodiya < narendra.sisod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Tanay Mathpal <tanama...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:43 PM, narendra sisodiya > > <narendra.sisod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Are you sure that a walk of 50 people can make a difference for the > entire > > country? > But we should not wait for collecting large public too. (3K-4K) is > seems very very difficult. we can only try out best and let see how > much impact we can make !! > Hm I too feel so first we should decide a date(may be a rough one) rite nw and the venue from where to where and another thing is that Quality matters much more than the Quantity and It will be better to get the quality people that are Dedicated FOSS enthusiasts who really know what they are doing and why and then the world will follow us..and my opinion a true FOSSian is alone equal to 10 people because he has the power of freedom and dedication with and I think their are a lot true FOSSians who will support this movement.. > > Consider the Gay pride walks organised in various parts of the > > country. They got so much media coverage because of two reasons: > > 1. It was a spicy issue for the media. > > 2. It had enormous participation. > > FOSS is not such a spicy issue for the media people so i think to > maximise > > the impact, we need to increase the participation. > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tanay Mathpal <tanama...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Parin Sharma <parin.sha...@gmail.com > > > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I joined the mailing list freedomw...@googlegroups.com and asked > them > >> >> for > >> >> ideas and here is their reply so what is your > idea..................?? > >> > > >> > > >> > We are definitely heading in the right direction. Now the next > important > >> > step has to be collecting and organising people (FOSS > >> > enthusiasts/college > >> > and school students). I think for that first we need the support of > the > >> > members of this community in finalising date/time/venue for the walk > and > >> > when that is done, we can us freedomwalk.in for the logistics part. > >> > Then the later part is to spread the word through email, mailing > lists, > >> > twitter, SMS campaigns and possibly through the media.. > >> >> > >> >> So can we have a Freedom Walk in Delhi soon?? > >> >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: Anoop John <anoopj...@gmail.com> > >> >> Date: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:19 PM > >> >> Subject: [freedomwalk] Re: Freedom Walk in Delhi?? > >> >> To: freedomw...@googlegroups.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hi Parin, > >> >> > >> >> Nice to see somebody else taking this campaign up. > >> >> > >> >> > were thinking of organising a Freedom Walk in Delhi because the > >> >> > >> >> What is the basic plan that you have in mind about the proposed walk? > >> >> > >> >> From where? To where? Distances? Timeline? > >> >> > >> >> Most of the on the ground activities like programs, media > interactions > >> >> and details like stay/food etc for the freedom walk that we had > >> >> organized in Kerala were organized at a distributed level because we > >> >> had reasonably good community support across Kerala. Zyxware acted as > >> >> the NOC for communications. The full walk was undertaken by 4 of us > >> >> while a lot of people joined us as the walk progressed through the > >> >> different districts. > >> >> > >> >> Do you have volunteers who will be part of the walk from start to the > >> >> finish? > >> >> > >> >> We would definitely love to share our experiences and any > >> >> tips/suggestions with you for organizing your walk. > >> >> > >> >> You could also use the site(freedomwalk.in) to post updates and > >> >> organize the walk if the idea gets off the ground. > >> >> > >> >> Hope to hear from you soon. > >> >> > >> >> Best Regards > >> >> Anoop John > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> http://www.zyxware.com > >> >> http://www.anoopjohn.com > >> >> http://www.thondomraughts.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Parin Sharma > >> >> Another FOSS Lover, > >> >> New Delhi > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Parin Sharma <parin.sha...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Tanay Mathpal <tanama...@gmail.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Parin Sharma < > parin.sha...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Tanay <tanama...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> That's absolutely a remarkable idea.. But for this, it is very > >> >>>>>> necessary that we have a large crowd of FOSS people.. By large > >> >>>>>> crowd, > >> >>>>>> i mean the number to be in excess of 3-4K. such a large crowd has > >> >>>>>> to > >> >>>>>> be channelised so that we are able to send our message to the > >> >>>>>> entire > >> >>>>>> country. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Hm well not 3-4K but we can easily have around 1K people and then > we > >> >>>>> can call schools/colleges students who are easy to handle and can > >> >>>>> come in > >> >>>>> great number then our FOSS enthusiasts > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I think that inviting someone just coz s/he is easy to handle won't > >> >>>> solve the purpose. In my opinion, everyone participating in the > march > >> >>>> should > >> >>>> be himself/herself a dedicated FOSS enthusiast, then only the > purpose > >> >>>> would > >> >>>> be solved. A large mass of school students march for Pulse Polio > >> >>>> campaigns > >> >>>> also but none of them is actually serious about the mission, hence > >> >>>> the > >> >>>> problem is never solved. > >> >>> > >> >>> I wanted to say that thing only so to make/get students dedicated to > >> >>> FOSS > >> >>> we are already are working by organizing workshops in various > schools > >> >>> and > >> >>> colleges............ > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> they will be there I hope so we can just start planning about 3-4 > >> >>>>> before the event then we can gather people in large number I > think. > >> >>>>> Rest we > >> >>>>> can call students from our colleges and schools........... > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> There has to be extensive media coverage which can only be > assured > >> >>>>>> if > >> >>>>>> we have a large crowd. We would need a larger forum to address > >> >>>>>> these > >> >>>>>> whole lot of people. Any suggestions for all this? > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> Hm media should cover these kind of events and they have to when > as > >> >>>>> we > >> >>>>> will have mass gathered......... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Media coverage would depend on the mass being gathered and also how > >> >>>> much > >> >>>> we publicize the event. http://freedomwalk.in is an excellent > medium. > >> >>>> Apart > >> >>>> from this, there has to be a dedicated website/blog which reports > >> >>>> about the > >> >>>> walk and updates the media people. FOSS enthusiasts with contacts > in > >> >>>> media, > >> >>>> either print or electronic, would be a great help in this campaign. > A > >> >>>> huge > >> >>>> number of posters/banners are an absolute must. Funding/sponsorship > >> >>>> for > >> >>>> these is another issue to be catered. > >> >>> > >> >>> Hm you are right this would only be a success if we all contribute > to > >> >>> it > >> >>> whatever we can + yes for funding we can talk to companies and may > be > >> >>> to new > >> >>> engineering colleges or other technical institutes which spend a lot > >> >>> money > >> >>> in advertising on Radio, TV printed media etc. and also Computer > >> >>> Society of > >> >>> India well there a lot a Organisations who can sponsor this provided > >> >>> this is > >> >>> big and we have something solid to show them which we have the > "POWER > >> >>> OF > >> >>> FREEDOM" so I think we should start in our own ways to think about > >> >>> such an > >> >>> event soon and decide things so I would request other Members of the > >> >>> mailing > >> >>> list too to give their suggestions because since everyone deserves > >> >>> Freedom > >> >>> everyone need to be part of it................ > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Well we can have posters banners and many other things to call > >> >>>>> people > >> >>>>> for such kind of events and there is http://freedomwalk.in which > >> >>>>> already is > >> >>>>> working with this project we can work with them..........but all > in > >> >>>>> all one > >> >>>>> thing as you said which matters the most are the mass the people > who > >> >>>>> are to > >> >>>>> be made aware of freedom............................. > >> >>>>> On Nov 8, 5:34 pm, Parin Sharma <parin.sha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tanay Mathpal > >> >>>>>> > <tanama...@gmail.com> > >> >>>>>> > wrote: > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Parin Sharma > >> >>>>>> > > <parin.sha...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Tanay <tanama...@gmail.com > > > >> >>>>>> > >> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> One of the major factors which help proprietary software > >> >>>>>> > >>> vendors > >> >>>>>> > >>> keep > >> >>>>>> > >>> a grip on the market is ignorance on the part of the > >> >>>>>> > >>> consumers. > >> >>>>>> > >>> Newspapers, one of the key sources of information to the > >> >>>>>> > >>> common > >> >>>>>> > >>> man, > >> >>>>>> > >>> to aren't playing their part and in their state of > ignorance, > >> >>>>>> > >>> helping > >> >>>>>> > >>> such organizations. > >> >>>>>> > >>> Recently, on twitter, i pointed out the proprietary bias > >> >>>>>> > >>> shown > >> >>>>>> > >>> by > >> >>>>>> > >>> Times of India vs Open Mindedness shown by The Hindu > >> >>>>>> > >>> "#timesofindia vs > >> >>>>>> > >>> #thehindu Clear proprietary bias shown by > >> >>>>>> > >>> #timesofindiahttp://3.ly/bvh > >> >>>>>> > >>> andhttp://3.ly/MQk#opensource #linux". > >> >>>>>> > >>> I also came across many internet related news articles in > the > >> >>>>>> > >>> local > >> >>>>>> > >>> paper Amar Ujala which used the logo of Internet Explorer. > It > >> >>>>>> > >>> gives a > >> >>>>>> > >>> wrong notion to the ignorant masses that the Internet and > >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet > >> >>>>>> > >>> Explorer are synonymous. So i pointed out this to the > Editor, > >> >>>>>> > >>> Amar > >> >>>>>> > >>> Ujala through a letter, a copy of which I am pasting below. > >> >>>>>> > >>> My motive is to inspire every reader to fight FOSS > ignorance > >> >>>>>> > >>> in > >> >>>>>> > >>> whatever best way s/he can and spread the spirit of Open > >> >>>>>> > >>> Source. > >> >>>>>> > >>> All the best to all. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >> Hm I too read this and my thoughts were the same so I > >> >>>>>> > >> commented > >> >>>>>> > >> on that > >> >>>>>> > >> article but they didn't reply with an email. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > I too commented on that article on the TOI site but they > didn't > >> >>>>>> > > approve it > >> >>>>>> > > neither did they reply.. We all need to do a lot more now for > >> >>>>>> > > ending this > >> >>>>>> > > ignorance.. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > Hm Well this for all of us Can't we organise a Freedom Walk or > >> >>>>>> > March > >> >>>>>> > sometime in Delhi or some other place to tell people about > these > >> >>>>>> > great > >> >>>>>> > things because everyone deserves freedom and I think this can > >> >>>>>> > really > >> >>>>>> > help as > >> >>>>>> > many media people will report about such a rally so awareness > can > >> >>>>>> > be > >> >>>>>> > spread > >> >>>>>> > + the ignorance level too can be minimized by telling people > >> >>>>>> > about > >> >>>>>> > Studies > >> >>>>>> > like the one Done by IIM - Banglore which says FOSS can save > 10, > >> >>>>>> > 000 > >> >>>>>> > Crores > >> >>>>>> > of our country by only replacing 50% of Proprietary Software > with > >> >>>>>> > FOSS more > >> >>>>>> > onhttp://bit.ly/OooR > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> The Letter > >> >>>>>> > >>> ---------------- > >> >>>>>> > >>> Hello sir, > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> I am a regular reader of your newspaper an am highly > >> >>>>>> > >>> appreciative of > >> >>>>>> > >>> the content matter and the quality of unbiased journalism > of > >> >>>>>> > >>> the > >> >>>>>> > >>> daily. > >> >>>>>> > >>> I would like to point your kind attention to a regular > >> >>>>>> > >>> feature > >> >>>>>> > >>> of the > >> >>>>>> > >>> web related articles published in Amar Ujala. Most of such > >> >>>>>> > >>> articles > >> >>>>>> > >>> contain the logo > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> of Microsoft's proprietary web browser - Internet Explorer. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> Apart from being a free publicity for the browser and the > >> >>>>>> > >>> company, it > >> >>>>>> > >>> gives a wrong notion to the lakhs of readers of the > newspaper > >> >>>>>> > >>> that the > >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet and Internet Explorer are synonymous. The role of > a > >> >>>>>> > >>> newspaper > >> >>>>>> > >>> is to create a better, an aware society. Using Microsoft > >> >>>>>> > >>> Internet > >> >>>>>> > >>> Explorer's logo in your articles gives the ignorant readers > a > >> >>>>>> > >>> notion > >> >>>>>> > >>> that Internet Explorer is what the Internet is all about, > >> >>>>>> > >>> which > >> >>>>>> > >>> is > >> >>>>>> > >>> totally wrong. A newspaper of your reputation should > instead > >> >>>>>> > >>> promote > >> >>>>>> > >>> Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> which gives the users the freedom to use them, without > being > >> >>>>>> > >>> under the > >> >>>>>> > >>> restrictions of copyright laws. Mozilla Firefox > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> is one of the most popular Open Source > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> browsers available. Another Open Source browser, Google > >> >>>>>> > >>> Chrome > >> >>>>>> > >>> is > >> >>>>>> > >>> doing well in the browser market. Opera > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> and Apple's Safari > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> , though not Open Source, are still options available to > the > >> >>>>>> > >>> users. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> My only concern is that the newspaper should not mislead > the > >> >>>>>> > >>> readers. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> Hence I request you to kindly look into the matter and do > >> >>>>>> > >>> something in > >> >>>>>> > >>> this regard as early as possible. I would like to get an > >> >>>>>> > >>> acknowledgment of this letter to you. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> I would be highly obliged. > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> Thanking you > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> Yours sincerely, > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >>> -- > >> >>>>>> > >>> Tanay Mathpal > >> >>>>>> > >>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >> >>>>>> > >>> College of Technology > >> >>>>>> > >>> Pantnagar > >> >>>>>> > >>> tanaymath...@gbpuat-tech.ac.in > >> >>>>>> > >>> tanama...@gmail.com > >> >>>>>> > >>>http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>>>> > >>>http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >> Nice you wrote this letter to them hope they do reply and > >> >>>>>> > >> don't > >> >>>>>> > >> repeat > >> >>>>>> > >> this by writing such Bias and misleading articles their > >> >>>>>> > >> newspaper............... > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >> -- > >> >>>>>> > >> Parin Sharma > >> >>>>>> > >> Another FOSS Lover, > >> >>>>>> > >> New Delhi > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > -- > >> >>>>>> > > Tanay Mathpal > >> >>>>>> > > Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >> >>>>>> > > College of Technology > >> >>>>>> > > Pantnagar > >> >>>>>> > > tanaymath...@gbpuat-tech.ac.in > >> >>>>>> > > tanama...@gmail.com > >> >>>>>> > >http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>>>> > >http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > -- > >> >>>>>> > Parin Sharma > >> >>>>>> > Another FOSS Lover, > >> >>>>>> > New Delhi > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> Parin Sharma > >> >>>>> Another FOSS Lover, > >> >>>>> New Delhi > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Tanay Mathpal > >> >>>> Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >> >>>> College of Technology > >> >>>> Pantnagar > >> >>>> tanaymath...@gbpuat-tech.ac.in > >> >>>> tanama...@gmail.com > >> >>>> http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>> http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Parin Sharma > >> >>> Another FOSS Lover, > >> >>> New Delhi > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Parin Sharma > >> >> Another FOSS Lover, > >> >> New Delhi > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Tanay Mathpal > >> > Final Yr, Computer Engineering > >> > College of Technology > >> > Pantnagar > >> > tanaymath...@gbpuat-tech.ac.in > >> > tanama...@gmail.com > >> > http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > >> > http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> -- > >> We can make some poster and put in colleges and ask for joining them. > >> Also there is no need to collect 3K-4K to make an impact. We can make > >> impact and say pur voice with 50 people too. > >> > >> -- > >> ┌─────────────────────────┐ > >> │ Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) > >> │ Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org > >> │ Twitter : http://tinyurl.com/dz7e4a > >> └─────────────────────────┘ > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Tanay Mathpal > > Final Yr, Computer Engineering > > College of Technology > > Pantnagar > > tanaymath...@gbpuat-tech.ac.in > > tanama...@gmail.com > > http://tanamania.wordpress.com/ > > http://twitter.com/tanamania/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ┌─────────────────────────┐ > │ Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) > │ Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org > │ Twitter : http://tinyurl.com/dz7e4a > └─────────────────────────┘ > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > Do you have another question? 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