Iya bener gue ketuker sama brown kelly = onde-2 = keluarga clown fish 
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  Kerapu bebek saat masih kecil disebut grace kelly krn katanya secantik
  grace kelly of Monaco......gitu yg gue baca di trubus

  Best Regards,

  Irwan Setyawan Utomo
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  PriceWaterhouseCoopers-KAP Drs Haryanto Sahari & Rekan
  Jakarta Indonesia 12920
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  On grace kelly bukan kerapu lohh dia masuk Clown fish (tidak mungkin bisa
  dipelihara ringkih banget) tapi mungkin yang elu maksud kerapu bebek yahhh
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    From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
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    Hehehe...mau nipu gue yah....

    Gak bisaaaaaa....

    Gue udah berguru di internet coiy....

    Hahaha...



    Betok mah masih kurang galak...

    Tuh kerapu grace kelly, kerapu merah, kerapu belang, kerapu
    lumpur....sama ikan kerapu batu karang (ikan pinter nyamar jadi
    karang).....baru....naluri membunuhnya yg tinggi.



    Oni

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    From: benyamin.sn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    Ohh iya yahh besok gue mesti presentasiin dagangan gue ke customer wahh
    kayanya gue kaga bisa kesumenep dulu nihhh.

    Wahh sayang banget dehh padahal gue mau panas-2in si oni untuk beli ikan
    yang punya naluri membunuh yang tinggi heheheh

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      From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
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      Elu ke sumenep yah Jumat ini....

      Gue sudah selesaiin sketz -nya.



      Oni



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      From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:12 PM
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      Gue punya yang dengan kerucut dan tanpa kerucut juga ...hahahahaha
      Jadiiii .... buat ngakalin kedua-duanya gimana ?
      tx
      @gung
      (betulkan bila saya salah)

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      From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
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      Sent: 23 September 2004 10:53
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      Importance: High


      Nah...pertanyaan dasarnya...

      PH yg mau elo akalin itu jenis yg mana?..

      Flow output besar (tanpa kerucut) atau flow output kecil (pake
      kerucut)?...

      Jawab dulu yg ini entar segalanya lebih mudah dijawab.



      Oni

      -----Original Message-----
      From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:48 AM
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      Tapi on, dengan cara nggak terlalu ngrendem PH supaya suctionnya bisa
      dapat udara apa gak ngurangin daya sedotnya ? kalo di tempat gue agak
      gak kerendem gitu suaranya criut criut karena yang kesedot gak hanya
      air. Belum legi resiko si PH panas dan rusak gara-gara gak kerendem
    air
      ...

      @gung
      (betulkan bila saya salah)



                              "Andoko, Onesiphorus

                              /BSN JKT





        Jadi kalo ngikut caranya Irwan gak efektif...

        Mau gak lo ngikut cara gue...???

        Hehehehehe...

        Ditempat gue (aqua laut gue yg baru jadi) sudah efektif berjalan
      bo....

        Hasilnya....butir-butir udara tersebar merata ke dalam air...

        Dan ukurannya mikro banget bos...sekitar 0,5 mm -an....seperti air
        bubbles yg dihasilan tanaman air gitulah....

        Bagus abis deh...dan asyiknya tuh air bubbles pada nempel dgn
      cantiknya
        di setiap batu karang & ornamen hias di aqua gue.



        Oni

        -----Original Message-----
        From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:57 AM
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        Itu yang gue lakukan Wan, gak efektif ...
        Ngomong masalah besarnya pH ...
        Aqua gue cuman 80x40xt45 pH gue pake SP 2500 ...
        Karena kalo pake yang SP 3600 tekor bok

        @gung
        (betulkan bila saya salah)

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Sent: 22 September 2004 14:12
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        Susah2, mending aliran powerhed dari filter ke aqua elu bolongin
    pipa
        pvc
        nya. Kan ada jatuhan air dari atas yg menciptakan oksigen terlarut.
    PH
        yg
        gede dikit kapasitasnya

        Best Regards,

        Irwan Setyawan Utomo

        ================================

        Bisa juga power headnya diakalin supaya selain ngedorong air juga
    bisa
        narik oksigen, tanpa bantuan aerator lagi.
        Caranya?.....
        Mudah...
        Tinggal atur posisi suction inlet dari PH sedemikian rupa sehingga
    ada
        ruang sedikit saja yg tidak terendam air.
        Walhasil...air yg didorong keluar oleh PH akan langsung membawa
    uraian
        air bubbles yg kecil-kecil.
        Dan itu sudah menggantikan fungsi aerator dgn mutu udara terlarut
    jauh
        lebih baik....
        Oni




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