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oaaalaah gitu toh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] info Koi


>
> Hehehe..
>
> KIKO itu plesetan dari  i-K-an  I-ni K-aya k-O-i....
>
> karena indukan jantannya KOI tapi indukan betinanya
> MAS/KARPER/TOMBRO/KANCRA DOMAS....
>
>
>
> Nah....secara umum warnanya tidak semenonjol yg asli KOI.
>
> Namun kalo mau teliti  masih ada yg bisa dipilih utk sekedar mengisi
> kolam anda...
>
> Karena  orang awam juga tidak tau bagaimana membedakannya...
>
> Jadi secara duit lebih murah secara kualitas +/- sama dengan Koi lokal
> grade C atau B.
>
>
>
> Corak warnanya mulai dari yg amburadul sampe yg mirip koi lokal grade C
> atau B.
>
> Juga Body ikan kalo diliat dari samping cenderung mirip
> MAS/KARPER/TOMBRO/KANCRA DOMAS ketimbang koi asli.
>
> Tapi tetap ada sungut di sudut bibir....(seperti layaknya asli koi)
>
>
>
> Begitu...
>
>
>
> Oni
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karomul Wachid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 3:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] info Koi
>
>
>
> KIKO apaan Bos ?
>
> Sedikit mengenai perbedaan Sukabumi - Blitar adalah terletak pada
> struktur
> tanahnya, kalau di Sukabumi dasar tambaknya adalah berupa lumpur atau
> tanah
> liat sedangkan di Blitar adalah berupa pasir dan juga lava sisa-2
> letusan
> gunung kelud waktu dulu makanya kualitas airnya jauh lebih bagus.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:46 AM
> Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] info Koi
>
>
> >
> > Nah sebenarnya...
> >
> > Ikan koi dari Sukabumi & sekitarnya inilah...yg menarik minat saya
> untuk
> > memelihara KIKO....
> >
> > Karena dari Sentra Sukabumi & dskt nya ini banyak dihasilkan KOI lokal
> &
> > KIKO juga...
> >
> >
> >
> > Nah, dari sekian banyak KIKO asal bisa milih saja bisa ditemukan
> > beberapa yg bisa dijadikan gacoan utk setara grade C / B koi lokal.
> > (Tidak ada KIKO yg bisa masuk grade A lokal)
> >
> > Untungnya lagi.. KIKO lini harganya tidak semahal KOI lokal...
> >
> >
> >
> > Sampai saat ini saya masih memelihara 1 ekor KIKO di kolam...
> >
> > yg lainnya sudah pada tewas saat kejadian listrik mati 10 jam beberapa
> > bulan lalu di daerah gue...
> >
> >
> >
> > Oni
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jean Tonny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 28 Desember 2004 10:41
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] info Koi
> >
> >
> > Rekan-2 milist,
> >
> > Mungkin saya mau sedikit memberikan bantuan perihal masalah ini karena
> > kebetulan saya seringkali pergi ke Blitar dan bertemu dgn beberapa
> > breeder
> > disana sambil berbincang-bincang seputar permasalahan KOI; lantas saya
> > peroleh sedikit rangkuman sbb:
> > - Sebetulnya, sudah lama banyak breeder dari wilayah Sukabumi serta
> Jawa
> > Barat lainnya telah berkunjung ke Blitar dan mereka membeli hasil
> > ternakan
> > dari Blitar untuk selanjutnya, mereka berusaha kembang-biakkan di
> > wilayah
> > Jawa Barat.
> > - Namun, sayangnya para breeder tsb malah mencoba untuk melakukan
> > kawin-silang antara KOI dgn ikan Mas (untuk konsumsi) yg ternyata
> hasil
> > kawin-silang tsb malah diluar harapan...
> > - Selain itu, para breeder di wilayah Jawa Barat bahkan kurang begitu
> > konsisten dgn hasil breeding/ternaknya dimana mereka lebih condong
> hanya
> > berorientasi pada kuantitas bukan kualitas.
> > - Bahkan sampai sekarang banyak orang Jawa Barat yg mulai membeli
> bibit
> > KOI
> > dari Blitar lantas dibesarkan di waduk Jatiluhur, Saguling bahkan
> > Cirata.
> > Namun, mereka masih berusaha sebatas pembesaran saja, lantas kalo
> sudah
> > besar dijual ke pasaran di Bandung, Jakarta dan sekitarnya.
> >
> > Oleh karena itu, sampai skrg selalu timbul pendapat bahwa kualitas KOI
> > asal
> > Blitar berbeda dibanding dgn ternakan dari Sukabumi.
> >
> > Dan, saya juga mendengar bahwa para breeder KOI dari Blitar juga
> sangat
> > menginginkan adanya lomba KOI skala Nasional yg berorientasi pada
> hasil
> > ternakan dalam negeri; sehingga para breeder bisa merasakan adanya
> > apresiasi
> > dari hasil kerja keras mereka selama ini.
> >
> > Demikian sekelumit masukan dari saya dan semoga bisa membantu atas
> > polemik
> > tsb....Jadi, bagi para penggemar KOI maju terus, pantang mundur....
> >
> > Salam,
> > Tonny
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:47 AM
> > Subject: [ikan_hias] info Koi
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Koi Sukabumi ama Koi Blitar ?...
> > >
> > > Beda kualitas Jauh sih nggak lah pak..
> > >
> > > Gak ngejar sih iya...hahahaha...?...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Pokonya spt yg G bilang kemarin...
> > >
> > > Tentukan dulu orientasinya...karena itu nanti menentukan
> sekali...ikan
> > > koi spt apa yg ente bakal beli...
> > >
> > > Mau yang harga murah - kualitasnya umumnya payah (lokal grade C s/d
> > > standar lokal grade B).
> > >
> > > Mau yang harga mahal - kualitasnya diatas standar (import grade B
> atau
> > > lokal grade A)
> > >
> > > Mau yang pasti mahal - kualitas super (import grade A s/d AA)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Belum lagi faktor ukuran body ....mau yg besar; sedang ato kecil?...
> > >
> > > Yg coraknya bagaimana?....
> > >
> > > Yg jantan atau yg betina?....
> > >
> > > Yg bentuk bodynya bagaimana?...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lokasi penjualnya nanti tinggal dipilih saja...
> > >
> > > Mau koi lokal / blitar yg bagus bisa ke Udin Koi (deket Ciawi
> > sono)..ato
> > > ke Fish paradise (Kartini) atau ke toko2 koi yg tersebar di penjuru
> > kota
> > > Jakarta ini.
> > >
> > > Mau koi import bisa ke toko2 koi atau ke perwakilan OGATA koi di
> > daerah
> > > Pasar Minggu.
> > >
> > > Mau koi lokal yg ecek-ecek s/d standar yah banyak sih...langsung ke
> > > petaninya boleh...atau langsung ke Kartini & Sumenep.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Begitu.   Oni
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karomul Wachid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 6:06 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: info Koi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > setahu saya kualitas koi Sukabumi masih jauh dibawah koi Blitar pak
> !
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: info Koi
> > > > Kalau mau beli partai besar ya paling banyak di Sukabumi, tapi
> kalau
> > > cuma
> > > > utk dipakai sendiri dlm jumlah cukup banyak di kartini lagi banyak
> > tuh
> > > Koi.
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