Dasar luu .... Tar mas roy ..buka kamus dan inget-inget yak hehehehhe
@gung (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) _____ From: Hendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 Februari 2005 15:57 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Dwarf Cichlid was Midas Fry Gung tolong jawabin yg bener trus gratisannya kasih ke gue ya!!!!.......makasih sebelumnya, hahaha -----Original Message----- From: willy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Dwarf Cichlid was Midas Fry Gung ?????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Dwarf Cichlid was Midas Fry managuen, bifas, synpylum, midas, red devil, green terror, nigro zebra, oscar sebenernya ikan udah lama ikan udah lama dr thn 90-an sih....cuma dulu melihara ikan belom seserius sekarang...namanya masih jaman abg, mending nyari cewe drpd melihara ikan...hihihihi..... :) p. managuen sih masih sering liat yg juga di toko2 ikan.. p. montaguen mesti tanya mang ivan tuh dia punya kalo gak salah....di kartini kadang suka ada juga yg masih piyik2... ...saya gak terlalu demen sama keluarga parachromis....gede + galak..males meliharanya...masih mending keluarga vieja/theraps...warna-nya lebih ada... ramirezi emank susah ya? susah di-mananya? parameter aer? or setting aqua-nya? or temen2 community tank-nya? kalo keluarga apistogama nyari dimana? mahal gak yah? mungkin ada yg mau barter dgn anakan midas? oh sekalian..tanya bagus mana pasir silika or pasir bali? ada pengaruh ke parameter pH gak yach? beli-nya dimana + harga berapa? kalo kayu bako yg murah dimana? maaf tanya-nya borongan....gratis anakan midas buat yg jawab :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry Heheheheh .... Emang jaman louhan jadi kacau semua, saya pernah beli yang dibilang Jinkan/white pricess (?) tapi yang kuntet harganya ? 2" = 110rb. Setelah masa louhan habis white princess cuman dijual 3,5rb hahahaha Boss Roy .. Parapetenia Managuense bukannya ikan lama ? jaman tahun 90an dah ada tuch ... :-) :-) :-) Kalo Parachromis Motaguense nhaa ... ini yang jarang, baru 2 minggu lalu (kalo gak salah lihat) ada di Karting uk 2"-an Kalo Dwarf chiclid ya paling keluarga Apistogramma itu lah .... Saya gak pernah sukses pelihara ramirezi, ini Sekarang lagi coba pelihara krisbensis :-) :-) Sorry ... kalo lemon, venustus dlll (aprikaan) kayaknyanya emang gak digolongkan dwarf chiclid .. Atoo ...dwarf gurami aja ..banyak tuch hehehheheheheheheheh Mas ivan ...saya mau dong dikirimin foto setting-an aqua khusus chiclidnya ... :-) tx @gung (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) _____ From: roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 Februari 2005 11:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry sebenernya sih Red Devil / Midas banyak koq...coba aja ke waduk cirata/jatiluhur...bisa dipancing pake pellet ikan mas....kalo bisa nge-jala banyak tuh dapetnya....termasuk nigrofasciatum yg zebra, 3 spotted cichlid (lupa nama latin+dagang-nya), mujaer...cuma kalo nyari yg special banget kaya bibir yg tebel ya jujur aja blom pernah ngeliat juga si di jakarta ini...udah banyak yg campuran kali... saya juga banyak belajar cichlid dr temen2, pedagang, buku + internet...dulu inget..jamannya lohan...ada LH BARONG... beli 1 ekor dgn harga 100 rb ukuran 2cm....ternyataaaaaa.......parachromis manaquen....duhhh...o'on banget kalo inget itu... ada org bandung yg korban juga tuh...siapa yaaa? hihihihihi...... :) saya lagi mikir2 mau set up aqua buat dwarf cichlid nih...yg saya tau cuma ramirezi doank yg umum banyak dipasaran... ada ide utk jenis2 dwarf cichlid apa aja dan dimana bisa didapatkan....jangan yg model2 lemon, venustus yach...itu kan lumayan masih bisa gede....ukuran max-nya yg 5 cm-an kali...gara2 Mang Ivan nih...ngeliat dia punya community tank-nya...asik juga liat ikan banyak mondar-mandir gak brantem sana sini.... ehh...Senin tgl. 7 saya mau ke Bandung....Mang Ivan....ada ikan apa yg bisa ane serok??? :P ----- Original Message ----- From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry Yeee ... say amah masih belajar tentang chiclid itupun dari internet :-) dan penganut prinsip"diatas langit masih ada langit" hehehehhehe Makasih penjelasannya ... jadi kesimpulannya Red devil/labiatum dah sulit ya ditemukan strain aslinya dipasaran. Saya pernah lihat koleksi temen (kenalnya juga di toko ikan) dia bilang red devil tapi bibirnya gak terlalu tebal walo lebih tebal dengan yang disebut red slayer, warna orange dan jenongnya lancip maksudnya besar dan mengecil di atas ukuran dah sekitar 40-50cm wuih mantaf banget tapi guuuuaallllaakkknya minta ampun. Trus lihat juga yang dibilang red slayer, besar jenongnya dah sebola tennis emang sich warnayanya tetep "tajam" yang reddevil .. Nhaaa .... Dulu ada yang bilang, chiclid Texas itu malah lain lagi tuch ...bukan carpinte or cynoguttatum ... au ah ribet ... Ca/sa chiclid banyak dihybridin ..... jadi binun .... Saya main aprikaan aja aaahhh ..... (sarannya mas Ivan hehehheheheheh) @gung (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) _____ From: roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 Februari 2005 10:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry Wah..Boss Agung....expert-nya cichlid lho....masa gak tau sih? :) benerin saya juga ya kalo salah.... memang bedain-nya ribet gara2 bahasa dagang + pedagang-nya juga ngambil gampang-nya dihajar jadi 1 nama aja... buat saya perbeda-annya sih dari size + bibir + bentuk mulut-nya Amphilophus CITRINELLUM dikenal dgn nama Cichlid MIDAS....size maximum-nya lebih besar + warna varian-nya ada merah, orange + campur merah, orange + putih...dikenal juga buat indukan bikin Red slayer, bibir gak terlalu tebel/memble, bentuk mulut-nya lebih roundy (buled) Amphilophus LABIATUM dikenal dgn nama RED DEVIL...size maximum-nya lebih kecil...mestinya sih masuk kategori medium size cichlid..warnanya orange pada umumnya, kalo liat di buku ttg cichlid, asli-nya Red Devil itu bibir-nya tebel banget, memble + jebleh...dono kalah kali :) cuma yg di indonesia sih kebanyakan dilepas di alam (i.e. waduk, empang, danau) udah kebanyakan kawin sono sini makanya ada penurunan kwalitas...bibir-nya udah gak se-tebel yg asli-nya + bentuk mulut-nya lebih lancip kasus ini sama spt H. Carpentis Vs H. Cyanogutattum...dibilang sama pedagang cuma Texas cichlid padahal 2 jenis yg berbeda.. kira2 begitu menurut saya perbedaa-nya...buat yg jago2 cichlid silahkahkan ikut komen...dari pak ahmad, pak bambang, pak ivan, dll, mohon koreksinya jika ada salah... just my 2cents... ----- Original Message ----- From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry Nhaaa .... Mumpung ada yang mbahas Midas .. Cuman pengen tau boss ... Bedanya Amphilophus CITRINELLUM (Red Devil) dan Amphilophus LABIATUM (yang di internet juga disebut Red Devil) itu apa � Kalo yang disebut MIDAS itu yang kayak gimana � Gambar sich citrinellum dan labiatum saya da hada ...tapi kok kayaknya gak ada bedanya :-) :-) :-) Mohon pencerahan .... @gung (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) _____ From: roy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 Februari 2005 8:59 To: Ikan Hias Subject: [ikan_hias] Midas Fry Buat yg mau anakan cichlid midas citrinelum size 2-3cm-an...bisa kontak ke ane...lagi banyak tuh di rumah.... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ikan_hias/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . 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