Bener juga ya anak ikan mas bisa bawa penyakit juga ... mungkin perlu direndam pake PK dulu ya sebelum diempanin tapi apa gak bahaya buat ikan yang memangsanya kan masih ada cairan PK yang nempel dikulitnya ... trus gimana dong pencegahannya
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Sakiiiiiiiitttt........???...Obati donkkkkk > > Boss.... > > air aqua lu itu gak mungkin gak ada bakteri / jamur / protozoa / > virusnya... > > jadi mo luka mo nggak...sebenarnya RTC elo itu sudah hidup berdampingan > dgn itu > > zat** renik. > > > > Kalo ngeliat kecepatan & daya bunuhnya sih ...takutnya...itu kena virus. > > Datengnya dari anakan ikan mas yg elo tampung... > > Mereka itu sudah kena KHV tapi gak mati...jadi carrier. > > Trus elo kasih buat RTC... > > Yah kena deh... > > Namun karena tidak terjadi infeksi...masih aman... > > Begitu ada luka dan terjadi infeksi... itu KHV yg latent...berkolaborasi > dgn bacteri yg ada di lingkungan air... > > Melakukan tour of the body...keliling tubuh si RTC...memamerkan kekuatan > & menggalang kematian... > > Hehehehehe... > > Walhasil...mati kan?... > > Hahahahahaha... > > > > > > Peace boss.... > > BSN medical jualannya bukan kearah pharmacy boss. > > Kearah complimenter product - perawatan luka luar. > > Ntar kalo ada yg engsel geser, patah kaki/tangan/rusuk, luka jatuh, > tertusuk, kepotong, luka operasi, borok, eksim, > > sperti itu produk kita baru kepake...buat mempercepat penyembuhan. > > > > Oni > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Sakiiiiiiiitttt........???...Obati donkkkkk > > > > Hhehehhe ... > > Stelah si RTC itu luka (keliatan kan kalo ini?) biasanya dia langsung > "diam" ...walo lampu dimatiin tetep aja diam (biasanya kalo lampu mati, > RTC akan "berdansa" di kaca depan aqua sambil "berburu" ikan mas)..terus > badan memucat sebagian .dalam waktu kurang dari 24 jam langsung mati > ..... parah kan ? > > Kejadian minggu lalu, seperti biasa malam tuch rombongan RTC gue kasih > makan ikan selar yang dipotong-potong, eehh..seekor gak mau makan dan > badannya agak pucat, stelah diperhatiin di belakang sirip depan kiri ada > setitik luka (kulit mengelupas). Ya udah, karena dah pasrah ...gue > biarin aja, paginya dah pucat sekali tapi nafas masih normal, gue piker > ...ikan ini gak bakal kuat ampe malam ...betulan ternyata jam 10 pagi > dah "berangkat". Masalah ini terjadi hanya kalo luka-nya dibadan (sisi > mana pun) kalo kasusnya di sirip ekor or sirip depan InsyaAllah akan > sembuh dgn sendirinya asal gak ditumbuhin jamur. > > > > pH gue gak pernah ukur lagi, suhu normal 29 derajat (gue pake Heater) > > penyebab luka kemungkinan besar berantem, RTC kecil suka usil ama > temannya, kalo berantem gigit-gigitan sirip depan, mungkin kekencengan > berantem trus terbentur bogwood yg ada disitu. > > Gue setuju dg obat-obat yang lu sebutin, tapi ini luka On ...bukan > bakteri or virus, gue kasih blitch ich hanya biar tuch luka aman gak > ditumbuhin jamur ..titik ..itu aja, karena gue bayangin kalo tuch luka > dah ditumbuhin jamur ...hmmm... bisa nular ke temen-temennya .... > > > > Nb. Obat yang lu sebutin produk BSN ? hahahahahahahha > > > > @gung > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) > > _____ > > From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 Maret 2005 18:26 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ikan_hias] Sakiiiiiiiitttt........???...Obati donkkkkk > Importance: High > > > > Hehehehe...... > > boss.... > > > > Coba** gejala sakitnya setelah timbul luka kayak gimana.... > > Kondisi lukanya kayak gimana. > > PH air saat itu berapa?... > > Temperatur airnya berapa?... > > Asal lukanya kira** gara** apa?... > > Kalo bsia sekalian jenis bacteri/virusnya...huahahahahaha.... > > > > Jangan pasrah dulu boss, > > Toh baru nyobain: > > - blich ich (ini kan buat penghilang infeksi jamur & parasit - yg bikin > gatal kulit ikan??) > > - pomate > > - elbayou > > > > Masih ada obat**an lain yg belum digilir boss....hehehehe... > > (ini sekalian ngajarin yg lain deh): > > - Chloramphenicol (anti aerob bacterial - luar) > > - Metrofusin (anti anaerob bacterial - dalam) > > - Dexyclav (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - luar dalam) > > - Amoxicillin (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - luar dalam) > > - Augmentin (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - luar dalam) > > - Dilox/an (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - dalam) > > - Ciproxin (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - kls wahid luar > dalam) > > - Avelox (anti aerob & anaerob bacterial - kls wahid luar > dalam) > > - Lexinor (anti anaerob bacterial - kls wahid luar dalam) > > - Zovirax (anti virus Herpes & Var. Zoster) > > - Virpes (anti virus Herpes & Var. Zoster) > > - Vermox (anti worm) > > > > Begitu.... > > > > Oni > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Sakiiiiiiiitttt...........RE: [ikan_hias] Setup akuarium > untuk ikan guppy > > > > Oniiiiiiiiiii...................... Lu gila apa ? gue suruh ngelukain > salah satu bidadari RTC gue ? kagak lah yaauuwww... :-) > > Saran lu bisa gue terima di obat-obatannya ...tapi untuk nyobanya gue > harus ngelukain ikan ? mendingan gue lukain arowana elo > hahahahahahhahahah ...... resiko matinya hampir gak ada .... Arowana kan > kuat banget ... hahahahha > > Gimana ? > > > > Blict ich udah, pomate udah, elbayou udah ..tetep koit ... makanya > akhirnya kalo dah luka gue pasrah aja :-(. Sekarang cuman bisa menjaga > supaya gak luka > > > > Nb. Arowana elo aman aja, sorry belum sempat fotoin, tustel dipinjam > temennya bini gue > > > > @gung > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) > > _____ > > From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 Maret 2005 16:43 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Sakiiiiiiiitttt...........RE: [ikan_hias] Setup akuarium > untuk ikan guppy > > > > RTC waktu ditreatment diganjar obat apa Gung?... > > Kalo kasusnya tuh ikan gak boleh luka. > > Even sedikit aja bisa bikin koit,.... > > Berarti obatnya kudu ngasih yg cesplenk punya.... > > > > Well, trial & error deh...toh sama juga kalo sudah luka 95%tket kematian > udah ditangan. > > Diobatin dgn obat biasa ATAU Tidak diobatin sama sekali. > > > > Lukanya luka luar kan?... > > Coba pulang ini elo lukain dikit salah satu RTC elo... > > Trus sudah itu...pindahin ke aqua karantina... > > Kasih antibiotik kelas wahid CIPROFLOXACIN (2-3x lebih kuat daripada > Amox) > > 1 butir (digerus/tumbuk halus dulu) dilarutkan utk 50 ltr air. > > Aerator matiin, heater matiin ...filter mekanik jalanin (tanpa > bioball-zeolit-carbon aktif) > > Campur juga dgn vitamin C IPI @ 50 mg. dosis 1 butir Vit C = 10 ltr air. > > > Lihat hasilnya besok... > > > > Kalo mati...berarti elo sial... > > Hahahahaha...... > > Gak dink...becanda... > > > > Ini hanya saran, terserah elo mau dilakuin ato nggak. > > Kalo elo sudah tidak ada pilihan obat lain lagi & resiko diobati biasa / > tidak diobati adalah sama yaitu kematian... > > Elo boleh coba saran gue... > > > > OK boss?.... > > > > Oni > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Sakiiiiiiiitttt...........RE: [ikan_hias] Setup akuarium untuk > ikan guppy > > > > Susah kalo dah sakit ... dan kayaknya ini semua ikan dech .. :-) > > tantangannya kan gimana kita bikin ikan kita nyaman sehingga bisa awet > .. > > > > contoh, siapa bilang pelihara RTC itu mudah ? :-) :-) :-) > > selama setahun terakhir, sampai saat ini gue dah beli 30 ekor RTC .. > yang mati 8 ekor ..semua karena sebab yang sama "LUKA" susahnya RTC itu > jangan ampe luka, luka dikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttt aja > langsung pucat dan gak mau makan ...udah dech, gak sampai 24 jam > langsung lewat. 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