Guys,
Ramirezi itukan termasuk family cichlid ya? makanya tau sendiri lah sepak terjang keluarga cichlid ini. Menurut buku dan pedagang termasuk peaceful, tapi saya pernah liat sendiri dia ngisengin ikan lain. Emang sih suka makan keong tapi yg kecil-kecil yg gede nggak mau makan tuh. Maasih doyanan Botia daripada Ramirezi. Tapi saya setuju kalau ikan ini punya warna yang indah, penuh dengan Mutiara khususnya Ramiresi yang biasa bukan yang albino. Maka kalau Ramirezi matian, mungkin karena berantem antar sesama atau kalah berantem dari ikan yang diisenginnya. Dasar jagoan keok...hehehehe...:). Iseng tapi nggak becus berantem, beraninya ama ikan-ikan yang kecil... --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Setuju kl ram matian. Paling lama........2 hari di tempat ane........setuju > kl di mentas cuman gopek, so td yg bilang kena goceng......Anda > tertipu........he..he..he..he... setuju juga kl Ram cantik. tp ya itu, > matian dan gak bisa gede ...he..he..he...coba bisa gede kayak aro, kan > keren tuh > > Best Regards, > > Irwan Setyawan Utomo > Assurance and Business Advisory Services > PriceWaterhouseCoopers-KAP Drs Haryanto Sahari & Rekan > Jakarta Indonesia 12920 > Telephone : +62 21 5212901-06 > Facsimile : +62 21 5212911/12 > > > > > "RWA- Roeswendra > Agung Arijadi" To: <[email protected]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: snail problem > 03/31/2005 05:00 > PM > Please respond to > ikan_hias > > > > > > > Banyak kok pak yang jualan Ram ... :-) coba di sumenep or di Kartini ... > > Kalo saya sich biasanya beli di daerah menteng atas :-) > > Harusnya harga di kartini or sumenep gak lebih dari 2rb/ek ...soalnya kalo > di menteng atas cuman 500 perak/ekor heheheheh ..itu alasannya kenapa saya > pilih beli di menteng atas .. hehehehehhe > > > > @gung > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) > > _____ > > From: hexahh76 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 Maret 2005 13:56 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: snail problem > > > > > Mas agung, tau beli ikan ramirezi dimana? > saya suka tuh dengan bentuk dan warnanya.....keren. > > > > --- In [email protected], "RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pak dicky ... setelah keongnya habis dimakan bunte/al, giliran > ikan kecil-kecil yang dihabisin bunte/al-nya hahahahahhahha > > Lebih aman pake botia or ramirezi dech .... > > Saya punya pengalaman buruk dengan ikan buntel, jaman dulu gara- > gara ikan buntel 750 perak ..belida albino seharga 35rb melayang krn > sirip dayungnya diputusin/dimakan buntel padahal buntelnya masih 1" > dan belidanya 25cm (btw jaman dulu '94 belida albino masih jarang > dan mahal) > > > > @gung > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DICKY HARJANTO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 30 Maret 2005 20:52 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > Bisa juga pake ikan buntel, dua hari pasti keongnya > > dah bersih, keong makanan favoritnya > > > > decky > > > > --- Hendra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > di kartini banyak pak, uk 1" ditawarin 2500/ek > > > > > > Hn > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:50 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > > > > Boss-boss ... mong-ngomong botia sekarang berapaan > > > yah dan ada dimana? ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and kind regards, > > > > > > BENNY ADYAKSA > > > RNE-Alcatel Indonesia > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +62 21 2750 9000 ext 9688 > > > +62 816 798 612 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 03/30/2005 03:30 PM > > > Please respond to ikan_hias > > > > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > cc: > > > Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] snail > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Memang botianya dikasih makan apa pak Tatan ? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tatan Taryadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 3:19 PM > > > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Ohh cepat besar untuk ukuran aquascape saya pak :) > > > ukuran 90.40.50 > > > waktu beli ukuran 1 inchi ada 4 bulan sudah lebih > > > 3x ukuran semula, jadi > > > terlalu besar u/ aquascape saya ! > > > Saya pindahin kolam tetangga deh ...:D > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:51 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > > > > Pak tatan pelihara botia dimana ? kolam air deras > > > � kok cepat besar .... > > > > > > Saya duluuu... pelihara botia 3 tahun beli 2" > > > mentok di 5" setelah 3 tahun > > > di aqua trus mati :-( > > > > > > Sekarang saya punya botia 5", dibeli setahun lalu > > > ukuran 4" ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalo punya resep gedhein botia secara cepat, mau > > > dong dishare .... karena > > > saya pengen punya botia 12"/30cm lah biar dah > > > kayak guling heheheheh > > > ...... > > > pengen beli langsung gedhe kok harganya gak kuat, > > > sekarang aja yang 6-7" > > > dah > > > ditawarin dengan harga 450rb per ekor ...hiks > > > > > > > > > > > > @gung > > > > > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....) > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Tatan Taryadi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 30 Maret 2005 12:10 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Untuk mengedalikan jumlah keong/snail bisa dengan > > > musuh alam nya Yaitu > > > puffer fish, atau ramirezi, saya denger botia juga > > > makan keong, tapi > > > menurut > > > saya botia terlalu cepet besarnya. > > > > > > Txs > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: hexahh76 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:57 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [ikan_hias] snail problem > > > > > > > > > > > > hai teman teman, > > > > > > langsung aja ya? > > > > > > saya punya aquarium yang berisikan tanaman hidup, > > > dan beberapa ekor > > > rednose... > > > awalnya setelah saya masukin tanaman hidup itu, > > > terlihat ada beberapa > > > ekor snail yang kecil... > > > tapi tidak mengganggu malah lucu ada kehidupan > > > lain. > > > > > > yang jadi masalah sekarang populasi mereka begitu > > > cepat. > > > > > > sehingga jadi menggangu krn sering nempel dikaca > > > depan samping sampai > > > kesaringan. > > > > > > gimana caranya supaya snail ini tidak terlalu > > > banyak? > > > > > > > > > ada effect buruknya nggak sih ? > > > > > > > > > saya takut pake toxid apapun yang untuk mengontrol > > > populasi snail. > > > tapi ikan saya malah ikut rusak. > > > > > > > > > kira kira ada ikan yang memakan telur snail atau > > > snail itu sendiri? > > > > > > atau idea lain? > > > > > > > > > sebelumnya saya mau ucapkan banyak terima kasih > > > atas bantuan yang > > > diberikan. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > yanto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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