Bos oni....untuk filter dan air mancur sebenrnya cukup 1 powerhead. Caranya
adalah ente pake filter atas. Di atas kolam loe bikin filter yg nempel ke
tembok. Nah powerhead yg satu kan bisa loe pake buat arus. Hemat kan.....

Best Regards,

Irwan Setyawan Utomo
Assurance and Business Advisory Services
PriceWaterhouseCoopers-KAP Drs Haryanto Sahari & Rekan
Jakarta Indonesia 12920
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Hehehehe...

Lah gue kan analisanya berdasarkan model kolam & filter yg disketch boss
Odjie...

Nah si boss Odjie ini kan maunya ya konvensional gitu plus air mancur,,
yah setting alat**nya menyesuaikan donk....



Tapi mau digimanain juga minimal pake 2 PH kapasitas sedang >> gede
dech...udah wajib itu.

(utk masuk ke filter & utk naik ke air mancur)

Tinggal mau nggak die pasang skimmer & bikin arus.



Kalo ternyata belakangan gak mau bikin air mancur yach minimal 1 PH lah
yg kapasitas sedang >> gede.

Gitu...

Simpel kan?...

Huehehehehe...

Oni



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Filter & kolam boss Odjie.



Boss .. kan elo yang bilang untuk memaksimalkan gaya yang bekerja pada
air, makanya gue penasaran kenapa harus 4 pH ?

hehehhehehe



@gung

(ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....)

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: 16 June, 2005 09:13
  Subject: [ikan_hias] Filter & kolam boss Odjie.


  Hehehe...

  Perhitungan amat sih ama listriknya...



  Lha wong PH dari kolam = 80W (kap. 2000-3000 l/hour) - wajib

  PH utk skimmer = 60W  (optional)

  PH utk air terjun = 60W  (optional - dah maunya boss Odjie)

  PH utk arus = 80W...(optional)

  Baru 280W....



  Kalo mau ngirit ala boss Agung bisa...

  1 step iritnya hanya perlu +/- 220W....tanpa skimmer.

  2 step iritnya hanya perlu +/- 140W....tanpa skimmer & tanpa bikin
arus.



  Padahal koi kan butuh arus & kualitas air bagus ....buat cepet
  bongsornya...hehehehe...

  Tapi yah terserah si boss Odjie ajalah...

  Toh Cuma saran ini juga...

  mau irit boleh toh ada konsekuensinya....

  mau dikit boros boleh toh ada bedanya juga.

  :))

  Oni





  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:51 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer



  Wuuiihhh.... 4 power head ?

  Boss odjie, coba kirim ke saya dech sketsa-nya ....

  Masak sich ampe 4 power head ? tekor tuch tar listriknya



  @gung

  (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....)

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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
  Sent: 15 Juni 2005 17:10
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer



  Boss Odjie,



  Reply saya ada di japri yah...

  Intinya, kalo saran saya...ente bakal perlu 3 power head ....

  4 malahan bisa jadi...kalo ente mau membuat arus dipertengahan
kolam....



  Layak tidaknya silahkan timbang** sendiri sesuai ukuran kantong yah
  boss....



  Oni



  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Odie
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:08 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer



  saya sudah buat nih sket kolamnya maap kurang detail, habis buru2 sih
  buatnya, rencananya saya buat filter menjadi 4 bak, bak pertama (A)
saya
  isi medianya dengan ijuk, yg B sya isi dengan arang, yg C diisi dengan
  bioball, nah yg D ini saya bingung apa harus diisi media filter yg
lain
  atau cukup sebagai penampungan air aja? di bak D ini saya pakai pompa
  untuk dialirkan ke tempat air terjun yg berfungsi juga sebagai filter
  tanaman,  nah kira2 apa yg kurang dari design saya ini nih, mohon
saran
  dari bos-bos sekalian..
  note : ukuran kolam 2 m (panjang) x 1 meter (lebar) x 80 cm (dalam)
           ukuran filter 2 m (panjang) x 25 cm (lebar) x 80 cm (dalam)
  dengan sekat masing-masing lebar 50 cm

  sebelumnya makasih ya


  odie


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: RWA-Roeswendra Agung Arijadi
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: 15 June, 2005 12:48
    Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer


    Boss Odie ...

    2 orang dibawah ini adalah yang termasuk pakar ... kolam mreka dah
  teruji sistem filternya ...

    Jadi jangan buang kesempatan, cepat gambar sketnya dan kirim ke
mereka
  biar kalo salah dibetulin :-) :-) :-)



    Kalo mau gak ribet, coba dech ke hanggar or sumenep, lihat sistem
  filter mreka ... boss odie ini mau buat kolam buat koi kan ?



    Saya sich ada sketsa filter, tapi ini ide saya sendiri termasuk
  masukan 2 pakar dibawah. Belum final, masih dirubah-rubah karena dalam
  perjalanannya kok masih aja ada yang kurang, saya gak mau ribet urusan
  filter + ngebersiinnya ...jadinya gimana caranya diakalin supaya gak
  ribet perawatan, tapi akibatnya ribet di desainnya hahahahahahah



    @gung

    (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....)

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    From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
  Behalf Of Andoko, Onesiphorus /BSN JKT
    Sent: 15 Juni 2005 12:08
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer



    Boss Odie,



    Sebenarnya lebih uenak tenan kalo ente duluan yg ngirim gambar sket
    filter yg ente mau-in.

    Baru tanyain di e-mail...ini sket filternya saya ...udah bener
  belom?...

    Kalo ada kurang dimana yg kurang?...Kalo ada yg keliru , gimana
    perbaikinya?...



    Gietu lo boss...



    Lha kalo situ sendiri sudah bingung?...maunya nanti filternya diset
    dimana & gimana modelnya...ditanyakan ke orang yah kita juga
    bingung...mau njawabnya /bantunya...



    Yg dah pakar juga (bisa-bisa) males ngejawab pertanyaan beginian...



    OK boss?...

    Peace..

    Oni





    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
    Behalf Of Karomul Wachid
    Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:55 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer




    saya sarankan jangan bikin kolam dulu sebelum yakin sistem filternya
  ...
    banyak pakar disini yang bisa kasih saran atau bisa juga search di
    internet

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Odie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: <[email protected]>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:43 AM
    Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer


    > kalau filter untuk kolam bapak bisa kasih saran gak nih? soalnya
  saya
    mau
    buat kolam 100(l) x 200(p) x 80(t) n rencananya filter saya mau
taruh
  di
    ujungnya jadi kira2 ukuran 100 x 50 x 80, atau sebagai alternatif
saya
    may
    tarus filternya disamping ukurannya 200 x 30 x 80, nah kira2 ada brp
    bak/sekat yg dibutuhin buat filter tsb, dan seperti yg saya tanyakan
    diawal
    mengenai flow air-nya, soalnya saya bingung untuk flow air difilter
    dengan
    bak semen(filter dibuat dengan semen , kalau bisa gambar sket dari
    filter...
    mohon saran-nya....
    >
    > Odie
    >   ----- Original Message -----
    >   From: Tatan Taryadi
    >   To: [email protected]
    >   Sent: 15 June, 2005 11:13
    >   Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer
    >
    >
    >   Waduh kalo disuruh bikin penampang saya nggak bisa ya
    >   Ini aja deh coret-coretan saya sebelum bikin...hehehehe...
    >
    >   http://www.geocities.com/tytanz/images/floatdraft.jpg
    >
    >   Mungkin bisa membantu...
    >
    >   Pipa sambungan T tepat di bawah lubang hisap itu bisa naik turun
    sesuai
    >   permukaan air, karena dihubungkan dengan pipa yang lebih besar
    >   diameternya. Sehingga pipa yang diameternya lebih kecil bisa
bebas
    >   bergerak naik-turun.
    >
    >   Kalau untuk skimmer kolam koi websitenya sudah ada pak tinggal
    >   dimodifikasi sesuai kebutuhan.
    >
    >   Ini web nya
    >   ...http://server.age.psu.edu/courses/asm327/skimmer/skimmer.html
    >
    >   Silahkan di explore
    >
    >   Txs ya semuanya atas atensinya
    >
    >   Tatan
    >
    >   -----Original Message-----
    >   From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    On
    >   Behalf Of petirdua
    >   Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:41 PM
    >   To: [email protected]
    >   Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: DIY Floating Surface Skimmer
    >
    >
    >   Weleh-weleh.....floating surface ini yang saya cari dari dulu.
    >
    >   Mohon ama boss Tatan Taryadi agar sudi kiranya bisa dibuatkan
  gambar
    >   diagram irisan tampak depan dan tampak sampingnya.
    >   Kalau bisa sekalian dengan diskripsi singkatnya.
    >
    >   Sebelumnya saya ucapkan terima kasih.
    >
    >
    >
    >   --- In [email protected], "Tatan Taryadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  wrote:
    >   > Surface skimmer nya ngikut naik turun permukaan air, karena
    memakai
    >   > pelampung, dan bisa diatur kedalaman intakenya dari permukaan
  air.
    >   >
    >   > http://www.geocities.com/tytanz/images/float.jpg
    >   > http://www.geocities.com/tytanz/images/floataction.jpg
    >   >
    >   > Txs
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