murmer bgt koq.. 1 set dibawah 30rb.. ukurannya kira2 30x45cm dgn 2 pipa  
sirkulasi. btw ga ada hebat2nya koq.. hehehe..

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:40:38 +0700, Irwansyah Pasay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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> Weleh..weleh..hebat nih si mbah, pakai underground...eh...undergravel  
> filter ya... harganya berapa mbah ?
>
> Salam,
> Irwan
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mpu Gondring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:23:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Nanya aer keruh & kaca aquarium kotor
>
> undergravel posisinya di paling dasar. diatasnya sy kasi pasir dan batu
> kira2 1-2cm. yg memakan tempat hanya saluran sedotnya saja yg kira2 2x3  
> cm
> lalu mengecil menjadi bentuk pipa diameter 1-2 cm tergantung jenisnya.
>
> di tempat saya sdh dimodif sehingga bs dipasang mesin buat penyedotnya.
> klo paket bawaannya dia bekerja pake gelembung udara yg dimasukan ke
> pipanya.. air sirkulasinya akan terangkat keatas dan tupah diujung atas
> pipa yg posisinya sdh diatas permukaan air.
>
> jgn hopeless dong oum... hehehehe...
>
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:57 +0700, Aris Hermawan  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>>
>> Utk undergravel filter apa cukup utk aquarium sekecil yg saya punya?
>> kayanya
>> akan memakan tempat minimal 1/3 dr aquarium saya.
>> Saya mungkin akan mencoba menggunakan skimmer Jebo utk filterasinya.
>> Mungkin
>> hopeless jg ya kalo ingin liat ikan tawar aktif...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mpu Gondring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Nanya aer keruh & kaca aquarium kotor
>>
>>
>>> huweleh... emang gorengan yg gw makan diwarung sebelah blom bayar ya?
>>> koq
>>> ampe nyari2.. hahahaha..
>>>
>>> dr bbrp reply emang kesimpulannya aquarium pak aris perlu di razia
>>> yustisi
>>> krn penduduknya agak padat ato kemungkinan lain adalah ekspansi
>>> perluasan
>>> wilayah. selain itu model hang on filter kyknya sirkulasi airnya ga
>>> maksimal krn cuma muter2 didaerah si filter aja.
>>>
>>> IMO yg dpt dr jajal sendiri, mantep pake undergravel filter yg berada
>>> kira2 2cm dibawah pasir. lalu sedot pake mesin yg ga perlu gede2, mau
>>> langsung dikucurin dijarak terjauh dr titik sedot bisa.. namun lbh baik
>>> dilalui filter kapas terlebih dahulu. di aquarium saya, pipa dr
>>> undergravel ke mesin (kira2 10-15cm) dikasi bbrp lubang supaya mesin  
>>> tak
>>> hanya menyedot air dr bawah pasirnya saja. sebulan aja sih kyknya masih
>>> bening asal rajin bersihin filter kapasnya.. (seminggu sekali)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:39:51 +0700, Irwansyah Pasay
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Halah si Mbah, dicari-cari di milis sebelah ternyata main disini
>>>> ya...hehehe :D
>>>>
>>>> Pak Aris, setelah air pengganti dikasih nitrivec, dibiarkan 24 jam  
>>>> dulu
>>>> kan...?
>>>> Biasanya akuarium cepat keruh karena penghuninya padat dan juga karena
>>>> lampu akuarium menyala terlalu lama.
>>>>
>>>> Salam,
>>>> Irwan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Mpu Gondring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:03:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Nanya aer keruh & kaca aquarium kotor
>>>>
>>>> ganti air tiap hari?? saya sebulan jg blum tentu ganti air. nambah air
>>>> sih
>>>> pasti. agak padat jg ya aquariumnya? jajal pake filter kapas pak..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:28:28 +0700, aris_hermawan2000
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Saya baru maen aer tawar, dulu main air laut. Kenapa aernya selalu
>>>>> keruh ya? begitu juga dgn kaca aquariumnya. Selama ini selalu ganti
>>>>> air 50-90% setiap hari. Ada yang bisa kasih pendapat ? Padahal usia
>>>>> aquarium sudah lebih dr 1 bulan dan sering saya kasih sera nitrivec &
>>>>> aquatan sesuai dosis. Selama ini tidak pernah ada ikan yg mati
>>>>> keracunan, semuanya mati krn faktor agresi dr penghuni lain yg
>>>>> sejenis. Utk makan 1 hari saya kasih 2x. dengan cacing beku tubifex.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aquarium saya 40x30x30cm
>>>>> Filter tipe waterflow 50 l/h
>>>>> 2 buah aerator
>>>>> gravel pasir malang 2 cm.
>>>>> Beberapa hiasan coral buatan.
>>>>> Lampu 3 buah 12watt.
>>>>> Heater diset 26
>>>>> Suhu 28-30C
>>>>> Zeolit yg harganya Rp.1500
>>>>>
>>>>> Penghuni :
>>>>> 6 ekor discuss 5-6cm
>>>>> 2 ekor botia india 3-4 cm
>>>>> 4 ekor botia lain 6-7 cm
>>>>> 5 ekor cichlid 4-5 cm
>>>>> 7 ekor (ga tau namanya) 4-5cm
>>>>> 2 ekor kepala timah 4-5cm
>>>>> 1 ekor perrot 4-5cm
>>>>> 1 ekor sapu-sapu 8-10cm
>>>>>
>>>>> Salam,
>>>>> Aris
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