On Monday 06 Sep 2004 8:34 am, Ajit Ranade wrote:
> folks (esp sandip)
>
> while we are on this topic, can you also guide us vsn-as-dialup-ISP users,
> on how to get our dynamic IP off RBLs? i think organised action helps, and

Well, firstly these IPs are not in standard RBLs. They are in DUL lists. 
Unless I am mistaken, not too many mail servers block DUL  IPs. They most 
probably subject it to more stricter checks. I, for example, give a higher 
spam value in Spam Assassin to these emails, simply because the number of 
spam coming from DUL far outmatches legitimate emails.

Also, remember, that either Tata Indicom/VSNL has voluntarily submitted its 
dialup pool, or somebody has taken the trouble to find out and submit them. 
Either way, people out there (mailadmins) have an interest in tracking 
dynamic IPs around the world.

As far as i see it, the only way to take IPs off DUL lists is by proving that 
they are not dynamic. :) That is the whole purpose of that list isnt it?

What is worthy of a protest is asking Tata Indicom/VSNL to take off that brain 
dead policy of alllowing only mails sent from Tata Indicom/VSNL email ids to 
be sent through their mail servers.

Another thing, always use the Tata Indicom name wheneevr you are talking about 
VSNL. It seems that Tata Indicom is choosy about how to use their brand name. 
They let obnoxious policies like these be publicised using the brand name of 
VSNL, while they promote their own brand name whenever a marketing pitchis to 
be made. Every body should know that Tata Indicom and VSNL are the same. Only 
when the Tata Indicom brand name/image gets a hit, will they take their 
stupid policy off. So repeat after me:

Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad 
Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata 
Indicom! 

:)

> if the ISP understands that many users are affected, they make take some
> corrective action. like giving us authenticated SMTP fr example.
>
> i am sure that this email is going to bounce back from most of the
> recepients. raju, request you to post on ilugd.

Well, it landed in my junk folder all right! :)

- Sandip

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