At 2005-08-22 14:32:26 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Perhaps people who have had prior experience with gender issues can
> come forth and give inputs, or be blunt and specific when some line
> is crossed.

Blunt and specific. OK, I can do that. :-)

> At the moment we're all sitting around agreeing that an issue has been
> identified, but none of us is actually doing anything to suggest steps
> that can be taken to resolve it.

I think the discussion has clearly shown at least three steps:

1. Don't perpetuate "humour" based on offensive stereotypes, or which
   are really veiled insults.

2. If you (no matter what gender you are) think something is offensive,
   speak out against it, to provide negative feedback to $whoever, and
   also so that other people understand what is and is not acceptable.

3. Make an active effort not to pass off the responsibility onto someone
   else. Think harder about what you, personally, can do to improve the
   situation. Think about what you might be doing to make it worse.

(Other steps aren't as clear yet, but I think they will become so.)

Note: There are two questions. How to encourage women to join the LUG or
list, and how to encourage them to stay, once they've joined. All of the
suggestions above address the latter question. I don't know offhand how
to address the former, but I don't believe we can't come up with a few
ideas if we put our minds to it.

-- ams

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