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Thanks for your input. I can ping mail.whatever.com when this occurs, =
that is what is so strange. Imail still receives outside mail, it's =
just that it doesn't get all the way to the users mailbox until I =
physically restart the machine.
-John
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From: Vaughn Thurman=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
No. Not an auto load feature.
Guess you can try to test it via a DOS box (ping =
www.somerealdomain.com) when you are affected as that would call the =
same resolver process. If that works then ignore all of my brilliant =
ideas as they would then seem to be rubbish in your situation.
-V
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Calhoun=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
I am using another machine for DNS. I don't remember setting up MS =
DNS on the NT machine....is this done automatically?
-John
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Vaughn Thurman=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
NT's resolver service does become entwined with the MS DNS as soon =
as it (MS DNS) is installed. MS DNS pre SP4 was roller coaster rubbish =
and pre SP5 was at best a square wheel. SP5 resolves a lot of the =
issues with MS DNS. I mention all of this because I have seen similar =
circumstances with other NT based mail servers and IP based apps as well =
(first hand). The culprit almost always being the MS DNS server (even =
if not being used to resolve names). Even if you are pointing at a =
remote DNS server in IMAIL, you still use the local resolver service to =
get to them... Could be other things, but I have seen this enough that =
I think it is worth checking out. SP4 and 5 both updated the Name =
resolver components.
-V
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Vasich=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
I had the problem and DNS was running on a different machine. I =
could start and stop the mail server and that wouldnt fix it only =
restarting the machine would. Because of that I could see how it could =
be a problem with something else. Just not the DNS for me.
Mike
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Vaughn Thurman=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
Are you running DNS on the same machine? if so check that it =
is not a problem with DNS being dead and so outbound names suddenly =
become unresolvable... Next time it happens try restarting DNS only, =
then process Queue on IMAIL as a test. Rebooting may be fixing your =
"weakling" NT DNS service and IMAIL gets the blame.
:)
-V
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Calhoun=20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Strange problem
I am having a strange problem with imail 5.0. About every =
week or so imail stops sending and receiving mail. It's like it holds =
all the mail in queue and I have to restart the machine to get it to =
release. It doesn't lose any messages, it just stops doing it's thing =
until I restart then it works for about a week then does it again. =
Anyone every heard of this?
-John
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for your input. I can ping =
mail.whatever.com=20
when this occurs, that is what is so strange. Imail still receives =
outside=20
mail, it's just that it doesn't get all the way to the users mailbox =
until I=20
physically restart the machine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-John</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vaughn =
Thurman</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 12, 1999 =
11:22=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [IMail Forum] =
Strange=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No. Not an auto load feature.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Guess you can try to test it via a DOS box =
(ping <A=20
href=3D"http://www.somerealdomain.com">www.somerealdomain.com</A>) =
when you are=20
affected as that would call the same resolver process. If that =
works=20
then ignore all of my brilliant ideas as they would then seem to be =
rubbish in=20
your situation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-V</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John=20
Calhoun</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 12, 1999 =
12:02=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [IMail Forum] =
Strange=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am using another machine for DNS. I =
don't remember=20
setting up MS DNS on the NT machine....is this done=20
automatically?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-John</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vaughn=20
Thurman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 12, 1999 =
10:34=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [IMail Forum] =
Strange=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>NT's resolver service does become entwined =
with the MS=20
DNS as soon as it (MS DNS) is installed. MS DNS pre SP4 was =
roller=20
coaster rubbish and pre SP5 was at best a square wheel. SP5 =
resolves=20
a lot of the issues with MS DNS. I mention all of this =
because I=20
have seen similar circumstances with other NT based mail servers =
and IP=20
based apps as well (first hand). The culprit almost always =
being the=20
MS DNS server (even if not being used to resolve names). =
Even if you=20
are pointing at a remote DNS server in IMAIL, you still use the =
local=20
resolver service to get to them... Could be other things, =
but I have=20
seen this enough that I think it is worth checking out. SP4 =
and 5=20
both updated the Name resolver components.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-V</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mike Vasich</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 12, =
1999 11:18=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [IMail =
Forum] Strange=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the problem and DNS was =
running on a=20
different machine. I could start and stop the mail server =
and that=20
wouldnt fix it only restarting the machine would. Because of =
that I=20
could see how it could be a problem with something else. =
Just not=20
the DNS for me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Vaughn=20
Thurman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 12, =
1999 10:01=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [IMail =
Forum]=20
Strange problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Are you running DNS on the same =
machine? if so=20
check that it is not a problem with DNS being dead and so =
outbound=20
names suddenly become unresolvable... Next time it =
happens try=20
restarting DNS only, then process Queue on IMAIL as a =
test. =20
Rebooting may be fixing your "weakling" NT DNS service and =
IMAIL gets=20
the blame.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>-V</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John=20
Calhoun</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July =
12, 1999=20
10:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [IMail =
Forum] Strange=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am having a strange problem with imail =
5.0. About every week or so imail stops sending and =
receiving=20
mail. It's like it holds all the mail in queue =
and I have=20
to restart the machine to get it to release. It =
doesn't lose=20
any messages, it just stops doing it's thing until I restart =
then it=20
works for about a week then does it again. Anyone =
every heard=20
of this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
=
size=3D2>-John</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
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