Troy,
Thanks for replying. You were the only one -- I've been watching the list
carefully.
Sandy
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:22 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Imail Mailing Lists, Sender: field, and Outlook
2000
>
>Someone did reply... don't remember what he/she/it said, but it had to do
>something with the way Imail writes/rewrites headers.
>
>For myself, I've never seen this problem until Outlook 2k. It's a client
>issue... if you got a problem with it, either don't use O2k or talk to
>Microsoft to see if they'll fix it.
>
>My mailbox looks fine from pine and mutt... dunno about the other GUI
MUAs,
>O2k is the only one I use. Taking this argument further, it's worth
noting
>that I'm subscribed to several lists, being run on a wide variety of MTA
and
>list management software. Outlook 2K has the same problem on *ALL* of my
>subscribed mailing lists.
>
>-Troy
>
>
>
>** -----Original Message-----
>** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>** [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sanford
>** Whiteman
>** Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 11:46 PM
>** To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>** Subject: [IMail Forum] Imail Mailing Lists, Sender: field, and Outlook
>** 2000
>**
>**
>** (I posted this last week and no one responded. C'mon, guys, can
>** I get some
>** real help here instead of watching y'all waste time making fun
>** of some guy
>** who mistyped "600" as "6000"? There are still people --
>** including Ziad as
>** well -- who are using this list for supplementary technical support.
>** Thanks!)
>**
>** Hey, everyone...have you noticed this? In Outlook 2000, the
>** Sender: value
>** appears in the From: address in the following form:
>**
>** From: <sender:> on behalf of <from:>
>**
>** This is only visible in Message Preview and Message View modes,
>** not in the
>** Inbox itself.
>**
>** The problem is not present in Netscape 3.x and 4.x, nor in
>** Outlook Express
>** 4.x and 5.x. I don't know about Eudora or other clients, but,
>** in any case,
>** this is a MAJOR problem for our organization, since we just
>** moved to Outlook
>** 2000. See, we reuse a series of generic mailing lists ("List1,"
"List2,"
>** etc.) to get around having to dynamically create new mailing lists for
>** one-off mailings, and use recipient impersonation via a friendly name:
>**
>** To: "Friendly Name" <genericlistname>
>**
>** It's a cool scheme, and one that I would have otherwise suggested to you
>** all, except that under OL2K it breaks. Users are now asking, "Who's
this
>** 'List79-owner' who keeps sending me messages?" Previously, the true
list
>** names would only be viewable in View Source mode, and we didn't consider
>** that a problem, since internal users have no business
>** questioning raw SMTP.
>** But now, they *see* the field in general use, and our masquerade
>** is undone.
>**
>** An additional note for the Ipswitch people: the SMTP RFCs
>** specify that the
>** Sender: field is appropriate if the server has a more reliable or "true"
>** sender that it knows about. Many servers "x-" out the Sender:
>** field because
>** they know that it can cause problems. In this case, I understand that
>** Imailsrv.exe is really doing the sending, and that it thinks that the
>** Mailing List owner is a more reliable sender than the From:
>** address of the
>** original post, so it will "x-" out any other Sender: fields and
>** put in its
>** own. But there's a logical issue here. Imailsrv puts a name like
>** "List79-owner" in as the Sender: field without first checking to
>** see if that
>** is a legit address. In fact, I can delete all of the
>** "<listname>-owner" and
>** "owner-<listname>" aliases, and the server *still* thinks that
>** "List79-owner" is a more reliable source than the From: address
>** -- which in
>** our organization is always a legitimate local user of the Imail
>** server who
>** has to (a) supply a password and (b) be on the POSTERS.LST to
>** even use the
>** list! Isn't that user a LOT more reliable as a Sender: field?
>** I'd say yes!
>**
>** Is there a workaround for this issue? Can anyone help?
>**
>** Thanks,
>**
>** Sandy
>**
>**
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>**
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