Suddenly, an Ipswitch employee rises to the bait.

Nonsense!

Dave


In reply to 5 Dec message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>Nearly all software vendors are looking for ways to manage the
>support costs.  The ironic part is that many vendors are
>implementing lists like this one because it is cheaper than
>providing phone support.  So Ipswitch is just leading the way to
>next step: abandoning the support list as well. 

>Ben
>BC Web

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Evans Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:41 PM
>Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Imail, Declude, AV 


>> Ipswitch employees used to take part in the list quite a bit.  I even
>> received a call from the president of the company one time after
posting a
>> negative response to a licensing change.  The main problem with
Ipswitch
>is
>> they just don't listen to their customers anymore.  They must have a
few
>> really big customers who don't mind the price and provide their own
>support.
>>
>> I have used Imail since v3.0 and boy have things changed since then. 
I
>> guess success spoiled them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Wolff
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 3:51 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Imail, Declude, AV
>>
>>
>>
>> But why? Why not participate on your own list??? Seems like a very
good
>way
>> to create good will with your customers, and a simple way to deal
with a
>lot
>> of the repetitive questions you get on your other forum. It jsut
doesn't
>> make sense to listen to the list if you are not going to help out.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of IMail Forum
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:30 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Imail, Declude, AV
>>
>>
>> Small blurb:
>>
>> Ipswitch provides this list as a forum for customers to share their
>> experiences and solutions.  Although we monitor this list and
>> occasionally submit answers or product information, we typically do
not
>> answer questions posted here.
>>
>> Questions for Ipswitch Technical Support should be sent to the
>> location described below.
>>
>> http://askatech.ipswitch.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "andyb@thumpernet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Todd Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:42 AM
>> Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Imail, Declude, AV
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I think it would be great if an Imail tech support person would
help on
>> > this list.  I'm on the one for Vircom RADIUS, and their tech
support
>> > people on on there all time.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Andy Baldwin
>> >
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > http://www.thumpernet.com
>> > 315-282-0020
>> >
>> > Monday, December 03, 2001, 4:58:55 PM, you wrote:
>> >
>> > TH> <$.02>
>> > TH> As I see it, IPSwitch took themselves out of the game by not
>replying
>> to
>> > TH> emails on this this (I won't even address the tech support
issue
>> because I
>> > TH> have always received my tech support from this list).  If
IPSwitch
>> wants
>> > TH> back into the game, I don't think anyone on this list would
mind if
>> they
>> > TH> started replying to posts and offering support, as long as it
is
>done
>> > TH> honestly and openly.  This includes letting everyone know who
you
>are,
>> > TH> accepting the criticism of issues, and being genuinely helpful.
I
>> would
>> > TH> hope that most people on this list would be forgiving to
IPSwitch in
>> the
>> > TH> name of improving their own mail servers.
>> > TH> </$.02>
>> >
>> > TH> Todd
>> >
>> > TH> -----Original Message-----
>> > TH> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > TH> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick
>Peacock
>> > TH> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:00 PM
>> > TH> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > TH> Subject: [IMail Forum] Imail, Declude, AV
>> >
>> >
>> > TH> First, I should clarify that Scott did NOT say that he
contacted the
>> CTO.
>> > TH> That was Roger Heath. My sincere apologies for the
misunderstanding.
>I
>> had
>> > TH> lumped Roger and Scott in with the "Pro-Delude" crowd which
seemed
>to
>> be
>> > TH> flaming a product and company I have trusted for many years.
>> >
>> > TH> I think that everyone will agree that not every solution works
for
>> every
>> > TH> customer. Delude obviously has had great success for many
years,
>> providing a
>> > TH> service not available before now. Some people will continue to
use
>> Delude,
>> > TH> while others will switch to ImailAV. Each has its pros and
cons. I
>> know that
>> > TH> we will use the Imail AV, because it was built by IPSwitch and
runs
>> with
>> > TH> Symantec, a world leader in AV.
>> >
>> > TH> There is a severe lack of good business in this world, and
IPSwitch
>> has
>> > TH> always done good by me. When I find a company that works for
me,and
>> with me,
>> > TH> I stick by them . As I said earlier, I don't know Delude, or
ever
>> heard of
>> > TH> it before now. I am just defending IPSwitch, as they are unable
to
>> defend
>> > TH> themselves (See the "Harry Sack's Brother?" emails - just as
snide
>as
>> I have
>> > TH> been). Anyone defending IPSwitch is suddenly "under suspicion".
>> >
>> > TH> Perhaps there will come a time when IPSwitch can respond to our
>posts
>> here
>> > TH> just as we do. Until then, I will defend IPSwitch, not for
personal
>> gain,
>> > TH> but for professional pride.
>> >
>> > TH> Rick
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TH> Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html
>> > TH> to be removed from this list.
>> >
>> > TH> An Archive of this list is available at:
>> > TH> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/
>> >
>> >
>> > TH> Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html
>> > TH> to be removed from this list.
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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