>We use a Symantec Enterprise Firewall that sends a 421 to the mailserver if
>the destination mailserver is down. I found this on Symantecs website:
>
><SNIP>
>SMTPD then tries to connect to the destination server and finds that it is
>down or unreachable. SMTPD then sends a 421 "service not available" error
>message back to the internal email server to tell it to move along to the
>next MX record with a higher priority.

Symantec is wrong.

421 means "please try again", or more specifically "If you try again it 
will work".  In the cases being discussed, it sounds like Symantec is 
returning a 421 when the primary mailserver is designed not to accept 
connections ever.  In that case, Symantec *must* return a 5xx response.

>AXENT Technical Support have found that some mail servers will not roll over
>to the second MX record because they do not properly interpret the 421 SMTP
>error message returned by the firewall.

Again, Symantec is wrong here.  I would recommend contacting them and 
asking them to point you to the RFC that says or suggests that a mailserver 
should move to backup MX records when it gets a 421 response (you'll get a 
cute "Um, I can't seem to find it now, but I just KNOW I saw it somewhere" 
type response).

>The mail server believes it has already made a successful connection with 
>the remote mail server when it has
>only communicated with the Raptor Firewall's SMTP proxy.

... and please, PLEASE, get Symantec to explain how an SMTP server is 
supposed to know that it made a successful connection to the firewall and 
not a successful connection to the remote mail server!

That one is just too funny.

>So according to Symantec it is Imail that has the wrong behavior.

Yes, according to Symantec, IMail is supposed to detect that a firewall is 
running.  And I am very sure that Symantec wants IMail to do that.  But not 
only is there no RFC saying that IMail should do that, there is no method 
shown for how IMail should detect that the firewall  is there.

Note that the SMTP rules are defined in RFCs, such as RFC821 that discusses 
the 421 code, not by Symantec.

                                                    -Scott
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