Hello Dan;

    This is of no help to the issue at hand, But may be something of
similarity to what
I have experience over here, on for some of my customers??
  I have a " Charter Pipeline Cable Modem Commercial" And in
Outlook Express & Office Outlook 2000 .......... We are unable to send out
mail
With both smtp & pop3 being    ""  mail.carrz-fox-fire.com  ""
To the outside world, BUT I am running a " Mozilla Mail Client" on my 2000
Pro machine
And I am able to send out to the world on it.

 Could you tell me if this is similar to the error that your clients would
receive??


**********
The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by
the server. The rejected e-mail address was '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
Subject 'just a little test', Account: 'Delphi', Server:
'mail.carrz-fox-fire.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 not local
host hotmail.com, not a gateway', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error:
550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79
**************

Thank You
Wayne



> Several people that work for us have dial-up service through MSN.  It
works OK for the
> most part.  It works incredibly great
> if you compare it to AOL users.
>
> The thing is, if you are hosting your own POP3 and SMTP servers, chances
are MSN will
> not let you communicate with anyone else's smtp server except there own.
THEY NOW
> REQUIRE SECURE PASSWORD AUTHENTICATION.
> This is really a good thing in the long run.
>
> Up until recently, we told our customers (these people work for us but
purchase internet
> access on their own), to
> just change their outbound (SMTP) server to "smtp.email.msn.com"  --->
then go to the
> outbound server properties and choose the MSN account name and passwords.
>
> THIS HAS ALWAYS WORKED GREAT.  Customer got their inbound from our server
and sent
> outbound from MSN.
>
> HOWEVER, MSN is now requiring SECURE PASSWORD AUTHENTICATION on their
outbound server.
>
> I don't blame them for doing this.  It totally makes since.  Me, well I
just get to
> handle a hundred or so tech support calls this week to walk the users
through this
> change.
>
>
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