In reality, when doing a store & forward there is no DNS resolution. IMail
will send the messages to the domain via the IP in the HOSTS file. If it did
a lookup and the primary server you are the backup for is down you would end
up with a loop (imail sending to itself) hence the HOSTS file lookup.

Eric S

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:17 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] mail not relaying (fixed?)


> RTFM, as they say...
>
> >From the IMail 7.1 manual, regarding "Setting up IMail Server as a Mail
> Gateway":
>
> "The IMail Server host must be able to resolve the domain name to
> the IP address of the other SMTP server. This is accomplished by
> making an entry for the domain name and IP in the hosts file
> (\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts) on the IMail Server host."
>
> The MX record for the problematic domains was set to the IP address of the
> final destination server.  The HOSTS file didn't have that IP address in
it.
> So, Imail checks the HOSTS file first, finds nothing, then does the MX
> lookup, wasn't happy, so it tried to use the TCP Stack, and I got Stack
> errors.
>
> Thanks for all the support,
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] mail not relaying (fixed?)
>
>
> In the HOSTS file on the old mail server, there were IP/domain entries for
> the sites that mail is relayed for.  On the new DNS/Mail server, there was
> only localhost, so I copied from one to the other the relevant sites, and
> mail is sending out fine now.  Very cool.
>
> Support at ipswitch, however, seems to consider what I did a hack.  This
is
> all extremely new to me (Sys admin left the company, the backup took
another
> position, so this is my trial by fire...IMail, DNS, IIS, all of it), so I
> honestly don't know.  If we take on a company for hosting, and they just
> want us to relay mail to them, is it incumbent on me to add to that HOSTS
> file, or are the additions made through another route?  The 'backup' sys
> admin who took another position wants to do a complete reinstall of IMail,
> believing that we have a corrupt install.  Right now, everyone is getting
> mail, so I'm not interested.
>
> I would really appreciate feedback on the fix/hack/other that I used, and
> whether it's good practice or not.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> -Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] mail not relaying
>
>
>
> >If IMAIL handles mail for the domain,
> >everything works fine.  The problem is, mail that relays to an outside
> >server isn't working.
>
> It sounds like your DNS server either isn't set up to allow recursive DNS
> lookups, or isn't allowing the IP of the IMail server to perform recursive
> DNS lookups.  That would explain the problem, as it would return MX
records
> that it has stored locally, but not ones stored on other DNS servers.
>
> >Mail is originating from IP 209.251.142.17 (where the DNS for this site
> >resolved currently), and then tries to send out through the new DNS
server
> >(209.208.51.130).
>
> If you have IMail and DNS on the same server, you'll want to change that
to
> 127.0.0.1 (localhost).  That way, you don't have to worry about any
> potential routing issues, which are common when trying to route E-mail
from
> a server to itself.
>
> >We did this, trying 209.208.51.130, then 127.0.0.1, and neither work.
>
> What happens when you do the following:
>
>          nslookup
>          server 127.0.0.1
>          set type=mx
>          hotmail.com
>
> Does it give the MX records for Hotmail, or a "Refused" or similar
response?
>
> >Any mail that doesn't relay to an outside server is sending/receiving
mail
> >correctly, it's just those that relay.  Naturally, this includes our
client
> >with the largest mail volume.
>
> Ah, so the problem is *incoming* E-mail to domains that IMail handles
> (relays), but does not store locally (and all outgoing E-mail and incoming
> E-mail to locally hosted domains is fine)?  That is a different issue.
>
> In this case, IMail does correctly go to the HOSTS file -- that is by
> design, and just how IMail works.
>
>                                                     -Scott
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