None by themselves.

This email details the best combination for immediate deletion from what I
have seen posted, though it must hit 3 blacklists to trigger:


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Van Hefner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Other Spam options


> RMilner,
>
> I was not trying to grandstand, just to help and pass along my personal
> experience with how well the product works. It's not like I am doing any
of
> the actual work on these RBLs. I am extremely grateful that these things
> exist. I DID spend hundreds of hours checking over tagged messages for
false
> positives by hand though. I listed some of the lists in my previous post.
> Will try attaching a copy of my spamblkm.txt file with this message. In
case
> that doesn't come through correctly though, below are the ones that I
> personally use.
>
> sbl.spamhaus.org
> bl.spamcop.net
> relays.ordb.org
> spam.dnsrbl.net
> dnsbl.njabl.org
> dnsbl.sorbs.net
> proxies.relays.monkeys.com
> antispam.or.id
> spews.bl.reynolds.net.au
> inflow.blackholes.us
> msgid.bl.gweep.ca
> chinanet.blackholes.us
>
> I came to choose these by going to http://www.moensted.dk/spam/ and
checking
> the individual websites of each of the lists that I chose for info on what
> they actually list. I also had Osirus on my list, until last week. They
were
> a pretty good blacklist, and will definitely be missed. I think that my
key
> approach towards choosing blacklists is to never go with one that lists
> entire, large ISPs (like five-ten does) or to add ones that simply
duplicate
> what another list is doing. For example, if I had two separate blacklists
of
> nothing but the same open proxies, that would throw things off. Each of
> these lists is unique in its own way, and that is what has allowed me to
> strike a good enough balance in order to trust the "three strikes, and
> you're deleted" rule.
>
> Other people's needs will definitely be different than mine. The amount of
> mail going through my servers is relatively small compared to most others
as
> well. Only several thousand each day. I do believe that anyone can benefit
> from finding the right mix of lists for THEIR particular situation though,
> and experimenting on how many RBL "hits" it takes until you can safely
> delete. I have never had a false positive on my own server that matched
> three of the above servers. In fact, for the past two weeks of monitoring
I
> have not gotten any false positives with even TWO lists (except when
Osirus
> kept listing EVERYTHING as being blacklisted!). I am sticking with three
for
> most of my clients though. Some are even at four. Everyone can find some
> middle ground to compromise at though, and if chosen correctly, you would
> have a very difficult time getting legit e-mail caught by FOUR different
> lists.
>
> Your mileage may vary. I am extremely pleased with the results I have
gotten
> though. Again, the credit should go to the people who run these lists and
> Ipswitch for (finally) implementing this valuable feature. It does take a
> lot of work to strike the right balance, but it is worth it in my opinion.
>
> One last WARNING!!! DO NOT ADD chinanet.blackholes.us IF YOU EXPECT TO
> RECEIVE -ANY- LEGITIMATE E-MAILS FROM MAINLAND CHINA!!! Personally, I
don't.
> Honk Kong, maybe. They are not on this list though, as all e-mail
addresses
> there end in .hk, not .cn.
>
>
> William Van Hefner
> System Administrator
> TheDigest.Com/TelCompare.Com
>
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Biddle
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Which are okay for Trusted Blacklists


Which lists are okay for trusted blacklists (immediate deletion)



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