the downside is trying to get legit mail requires either ignoring that test
or whitelisting microsoft.com (not a great idea).  Examples from the last
month:

info requested from the business partners group
info about upcoming seminars for partners
info about DVD shipments that are on the way.

and, since I know one or two of those techs from a previous life, any of
their emails tend to fail as well.

K

And I doubt AOL enforcing their rules will make MS change their tune --
instead, they'll bill MSN as a more reliable email service, which DOESN'T
block (so much of?) your legitimate mail (include pic's from the grandkids
send via grandson's toy mail server,  etc...).  It should be relatively
simple for them to set up a number of baby accounts, send legit emails from
all over and then play up the high false positive rate in the spam control
used when blocking huge IP ranges or by keyword in the PTR record.

Although I can see an individual company making such a decision, after
analyzing all the risks and deciding they don't do, or don't want to do,
business with such users, I cannot see any large email provider (with
business customers) doing such blocking on a mass basis. Unless, of course,
they are not properly informing their customers of the risks and
consequences.  If you think that clueless admin told to get RFP's on their
major project is going to look at some bounce/error msg and figure out how
to get themselves whitelisted, you are in dreamland (see recent thread by a
mail admin running into same problem, many emails, still hasn't sent msg to
abuse@ account and gotten resolved). That is simply business that has gone
to your competitors.  Just as early users on AOL didn't care why they could
not get or receive attachments (until more of them found out it was their
problem, not the world's), the average user doesn't care why email to you
fails, they simply move on).



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rod Dorman
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] V8 anti-spam
>
>
> On Thursday, September 25, 2003, 11:26:49, Karen D. Oland wrote:
> > Although in a perfect world, this test would only find
> spammers, in the real
> > world it catches practically all legit mail sent from inside
> microsoft (non
> > msn) corporation
>
> So what's the downside :-)
>
> >  (since they seem to have a mail server running on every
> > tech''s desktop and no one has PTR's or rDNS set up.
>
> Assuming  that  every  tech's  desktop  is  an authorized sender for the
> microsoft.com domain the onus is upon them to run compliant software.

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