And if I-Mail cannot verify the user is valid on the sender's domain, what
exactly do you think the Verify MAIL FROM Address does in 8.x Antispam?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gerry Massat
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Imail discard vs. bounce


From: "Ed McAndrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This isn't about spam, this is about unknown users, which can't be
> filtered until there is knowledge of whether or not the user exists,
> which means it has to touch the imail server for user account reference.

IMail can't do it, but IMGate can.  With Sender Address Verification, IMGate
does a temporary reject on delivery from an unknown sender.  For example if
my server gets an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] it checks with the MX for
example.com to see if the bozo exists.  Then when the message is
re-delivered IMGate will accept delivery if bozo is valid, and refuse
delivery if it's bogus.

So if the sender doesn't exist- it ain't legit!

> Sure, some spam is routed, but that is not the source of the problem,
> the problem is just general misdirected mail sent by tens of thousands
> of sender's world wide......
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 4:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Imail discard vs. bounce
>
>
> >oes anybody know of a way this can be done?.
>
> The best way "system wide" is not to let the crap get down the wires and
>
> into the mailbox server in the first place, by rejecting (not bounce) at
> an
> anti-spam MX gateway.
>
> You should never accept and then bounce what you reject (you become part
> of
> the problem, not part of the solution).
>
> I don't "silently discard" on IMGate, other than episodes such as a
> mailer
> worm storm.
>
> Rejecting mail after RCPT TO: is highly effective and accurate, plus
> most
> efficient for your systems, and all of Internet.
>
> And don't buy any BS and FUD about "high reject rates of legit mail"
> when
> doing envelope-rejection.
>
> Len


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