We have a similar issue with ASSP. We have ASSP on a separate box along with
Norton AVG (EW!) and when we pass outgoing mail using the smart host through
ASSP it creates a mail loop and we end up with a broken mail server this is
making the whitelist feature useless.

What I'm considering doing is setting up ASSP on my mail server as well
since the majority of my users use a mail client other then web messaging
and run ASSP off of a share for outbound only, this would force the
whitelist to be saved to a network share.

So inbound e-mail:

ASSP > NAVG > imail
Outbound:
Imail > ASSP on same machine > world

ASSP would be setup like so:

Inbound MX record holds all files and runs ASSP, ASSP sits in network share
Outbound SMTP Server runs ASSP from network share, saving outgoing whitelist
entries to net share, allowing inbound MX to see whitelist generated from
outbound mail.

Any thoughts?

This is getting OT so shoot me a mail off list.
Scott


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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:28 AM
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Matt, thanks for the detailed comments confirming what I thought.

My original post was that I wanted to try and include webmail users
along with non webmail users.  I thought that might be possible using a
gateway but no one here seems to use ASSP as the gateway for imail. So I
guess I will need to make some kind of spam submission system for
webmail users unless there is some file in webmail that can be modified
to tell webmail to use a different smtp server for sending mail.

Nelson

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Robertson
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] ASSP and Imail


Ok I found the original thread.

Doug Traylor wrote:
>Actually, since ASSP is listening on port 25, when you send via
webmail,
>ASSP will see the outgoing mail and note it in the log as "local or 
>whitelisted".  Try it and check your ASSP logs.

No, that's not correct.  As Nelson originally pointed out ASSP is
running on port 25 and web mail is not.  The two are independent of one
another as a result.

If you check the ASSP logs you'll see nothing shows up in them.

This is all true on a single box running Imail and ASSP together.  Not
sure what would happen if you split them up.

This separation introduces issues with using ASSP.  Notably, how do your
users build whitelists if they effectively are not a part of the system?


ASSP has alternative methods of submitting whitelist entries, and you
can write up a script to create a web-based interface to it.  Not as
convenient as just sending mail, but its an acceptable substitute on a
server where I try to discourage reliance on web mail.

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