I'm still a little confused by how you're setting up the DNS servers in this
plan.  I can see that if his primary DNS servers are on the same line as his
web servers, then when that connection goes down, those DNS servers also
become unavailable.  If he has the redundant line, with different DNS
servers, then access is still available through that line and those DNS
servers take over the work.  However, what happens if he has independent DNS
servers that are not residing locally?  Generally, people don't recommend
having all of your DNS servers in the same IP pool/same connection as your
web servers.  So he might have one or more secondary DNS servers that are
located elsewhere (possibly another city or state).  When his primary line
goes down, those secondary DNS servers would still report the IP addresses
belonging to that line, and not the IP addresses belonging to his backup
line.

What am I missing here?

Ben
BC Web
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Redundancy


> While I would never recommend running a hosting op this way without
> appropriate bandwidth/power redundancy and security, we used to run our
> office similar to this.  There's two possibilities that we tried at
various
> times that might work for you, depending on your budget:
>
> 1. The cheap solution: Set up an additional NS server record on all hosted
> domains that uses the backup network WAN IP.  So, when the primary network
> is down, switch the cable over.  DNS servers with addresses on the primary
> network are unavailable, but DNS servers on the backup network are
> available, and vice versa.
>
> 2. Preferably, set up a dual WAN router to aggregate the bandwidth from
both
> providers.  You still need to set up the additional NS records, but in
this
> case all are online all of the time (except during an outage for one or
the
> other provider).  A side benefit of this is that you have more bandwidth
to
> your office for normal use.  This could also help with remote access to
the
> office in times of outage.
>
> HTH
>
> Darin.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:00 AM
> Subject: [IMail Forum] OT: Redundancy
>
>
> This is a little off topic, but I think this may reach my intended
audience
> who may be able to offer some solutions.
> We run a small web hosting company, and have a full T1 for our main
> connection source. We generally have very little downtime, and our hosting
> clients have come to appreciate that. For the second time in 2 months,
> however, a major fiber line was cut and we had no phones or T1 for over 8
> hours.
> I've gotten a cable-based "backup" connection and I'm trying to decide the
> best possible way to implement it as a backup for when the T1 goes down
> again.
> I only want to use the cable-based solution when the T1 goes down; no
> load-balancing is needed....
> I have a firewall in place and use NAT/reverse proxy so that sites will
come
> up from either (T1 or cable) Internet IP.....
>
> Has anyone had experience or could someone recommend a solution that would
> handle DNS ?
> For example, when our T1 is up and functioning, DNS points to our T1-based
> IP's. When the T1 goes down, DNS gets pointed to our cable-based IP's. I
> realize the TTL would have to be set low, but how low is too low?
>
> Again, sorry for the OT subject - any info will be sincerely appreciated.
> --Bill
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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