I will probably use their built in scanning solution which is powered by Avast. Our email solution for our students is going to be a closed system, meaning students will only be able to email other students and our faculty / staff. Therefore, we do not have a dire need for an anti-spam solution.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:58:57 -0400, Don Schreiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How effective is the Spam filtering? On the AV side are you using third > party scanner (i.e. F-Prot) or their built-in scanner? Thanks. > > -Don > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Stovall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail Replacement compilation > > I have to say that my evaluation of the Merak Mail product has > exceeded my expectations. We originally purchased iMail because we > were looking for an email solution for our students, which they would > access solely through the webmail interface. Upon installation of > iMail, I noticed the webmail interface to be rather bland. That was > even the case after applying KillerWebMail templates. Out of the box, > the Merak Mail web interface looked 5 times better. Not to mention > that issues we were having with iMail were nonexistent in Merak Mail. > Anyone who still wishes to find an iMail replacement and hasn't looked > at Merak as a viable alternative, I highly recommend doing so. > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:21:23 -0700, Ted Galerneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, thanks for the list! I have invested several hours today in this > > researching and still haven't looked at some of the links you've provided. > > However I did get off on a pleasant and possible more profitable tangent > > while looking at SmarterMail and seeing that it works with some very > > affordable Windows based remote control panels like Helm and Hosting > > Controller which can also support many of the other email servers I am > > looking at, including IMail (yah right)! For less than the investment that > > Ipswitch expects from us for ICS we could easily setup a whole new email > > server and a new additional web server complete with a control panel which > > requires way less maintenance and could actually boost profits way more > > than > > ICS unlimited users would, which many of us already need as it is unless > > your user base is less than 250. > > > > > > > > Email software /w unlimited accounts, 30 days of free support & free > > upgrades for a year starting at $499.00 and $50 support calls after the > > initial 30 days of free support are up. Control Panel, unlimited domains > > with 1 year support and upgrades = $698.00. Maybe another $1200 or so for > > one additional server with OS, and converting the newly retired Imail > > server > > and OS into a new web machine for the control panel. The total investment > > would be about $2397.00, which is much less than the least expensive > > unlimited ICS offerings from Ipswitch. > > > > > > > > Or we could all go for one of the even more expensive email servers with > > unlimited regular accounts that would also include some Outlook workgroup > > accounts that we could update incrementally as needed and still save money > > from what Ipswitch wants by the New Year. For this add another $1400 to > > the > > equation above. Either way other than staying with Ipswitch we could > > easily > > host many new domains with lots of new email accounts and still offer ICS > > if > > a client wants it enough to pay the incremental cost themselves and > > produce > > a full return for our investment sooner while saving money in the mean > > time. > > Chances are we would probably recover the smaller expenses outlined above > > much faster than we could by going with ICS and maybe even needing to > > purchase yet another full version of ICS later on because something new > > would break what we have and that is not covered with an SA unless of > > course > > we want to just throw good hard earned money away every year. The > > investment > > noted above would also help to reduce operating overhead by making use of > > the automated control panel for clients to make automated orders and setup > > their own stuff and maintain their own accounts and billing. > > > > > > > > Or option 2, we that have more than 250 email clients could just spend a > > minimum of $3995 for the new Ipswitch ICS bundle, assuming we buy it now > > and > > sacrifice a better Xmas for our children or grandchildren or wait a while > > longer and pay yet another grand or more for it. Hmmmmm, I wonder how much > > new revenue we could generate by trying to force the newly incurred costs > > of > > the ICS bundle on our own existing clients some of which are already > > shopping for less expensive hosting options and get them to pay more? I > > just > > don't have the heart to treat our clients like that while the newer and > > cheaper web hosting companies are offering more for less than we can > > provide > > with what we already have with less or no phone support like what we > > offer. > > How can they charge so little and still make any profit while bending over > > backwards or whichever way for the bigger companies that we must all > > purchase our tools from that want take more and more money from us each > > year? Or are those companies just bootlegging the software they use? > > Perhaps > > I am just too honest to be in this business anymore. > > > > > > > > Lastly, out of our needed unlimited licenses for email (since we have more > > than a 250 user base) I seriously doubt that I could talk 50 to 100 of our > > existing clients into forking over another $1 each a month for ICS > > features. > > Doing the math that is a max of $1200 per year in additional revenue if > > I'm > > really lucky. This means we would still need to pay out another additional > > $2795 for what we don't have the market for but have grown to like over > > the > > years in spite of some of the hurdles we've had. Trying calling Imail > > support when there is a global problem and something breaks Imail all > > over! > > You are right Ipswitch, our $495 a year don't really cover the support J > > What are you people thinking? > > > > > > > > I apologize for the rave, but I also hope I sound as bummed out as much as > > I > > really am by this outrageous thing that Ipswitch is putting off on us all! > > I've never wanted to wish anyone anything bad before because I believe in > > Karma. I am going to try and hold on to my ethics and beliefs because my > > guess is Ipswitch will be getting a large dose of what goes around comes > > around. Probably even if they totally back peddle on this one, much harm > > is > > done already and many long time trusts are already broken. I will try > > really > > to stop ranting from this point on, but I just don't know how else to > > really > > get their attention and I am pretty frustrated right now. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:51 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [IMail Forum] IMail Replacement compilation > > > > > > > > > > > > We have been using IMail since 1997 (it's crashing our 1st server almost > > put > > us out of business in 1997, that server is still running today). We > > currently have 2 mail servers that we run and several co-located customers > > who are also running IMail. We just built a new server to upgrade one of > > our > > IMail servers, at which time we would have renewed our service agreement > > with the hope to continue to use their product for another 7 years. All I > > can say to IMail's developers and support people is "thank you for the > > many > > years of use out of a great product." > > > > Unfortunately since Ipswitch is no longer interested in meeting our needs > > by bloating a product beyond our needs we have decided to move on. We > > don't > > need all the bells and whistles, we just need a solid mail server that > > will > > handles 1000's of accounts on many domains and not break the bank. As such > > I > > have taken the time to read all the mail posted in the last few days and > > compile a list of commercial different solutions along with their cost to > > meet our needs. In all cases I looked for Unlimited Domains & Unlimited > > Users. If UNK is shown it means that the price was not clearly available > > or > > it was unclear. > > > > I have indicated which products clearly listed a migration tool for > > IMail. > > > > I have not distinguished which products have Group Ware (we don't care or > > need it) or have anti-spam/anti-virus capabilities (we are covered here - > > thanks to Len and IMGate) as most of them do now days. > > > > If I have missed anyone or gotten the pricing wrong, I apologize. I hope > > to put together a similar list of Open Source Software solutions that also > > meet our requirement of unlimited users with unlimited domains. Any > > suggestions here would be appreciated. > > > > > > P.S. > > I hope I got the capitalization of IMail and Ipswitch correct. > > > > Deerfield: http://www.deerfield.com/products/visnetic-mailserver/ > > $1,950.00 > > > > FTGate http://www.ftgate.com/showpage.asp?id=57 > > �600 > > > > Kerio http://www.kerio.com/kms_active_dir.html > > UNK > > > > MailEnable: http://www.mailenable.com > > $220 > > > > MailMax 5.5: http://www.smartmax.com/mailmax.aspx > > $1499 > > > > MDeamon http://www.altn.com/ > > $1,980.00 > > > > Merak: > > http://merakmailserver.com/Products/Mail_Server_Migration_Tool/ $Depends > > on > > options > > Has migration tool. > > > > ModusMail: http://www.vircom.com/Products/Modus/ModusMail/ > > UNK > > > > SLMail Pro http://www.slmail.com/default.asp > > $1,450 > > > > SmarterMail: http://www.smartertools.com/Default.aspx > > $495.00 > > Discount pricing: > > http://www.plateaultd.com/xcart/customer/home.php?cat=254 > > $199.00 > > Has migration tool. > > > > Surge Mail: http://netwinsite.com/surgemail/ > > $770 > > > > WinMail http://www.magicwinmail.net/technic.asp $1299 > > > > WorkGroupMail http://www.workgroupmail.com/contactus.asp > > $1495 > > > > > > Additional Products: http://www.emailman.com/win/servers.html > > > > I am sure I have missed some as I only have 25 hours in a day to address > > potential areas of growth thrown my way. Hope this helps others at least > > in > > part of their search for a replacement to IMail. > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > ------------------------------ > CompBiz.Net scanned for Virus' > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
